Attorney General Wins $539,000 Judgment against Couple for Fraudulently Enrolling Children in DCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

^^ this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

I disagree. DC Taxpayers are all victims! These were two police officers who are sworn to uphold the laws.

Absolutely. I completely agree that Blue Lives Matter, and this makes everyone look bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is these are police breaking the law

It is ironic, and most recent MPD hires have been quality officers. But if you go back to the bad old Barry administrations, a lot of the cops hired then failed the police exam multiple times and some even had criminal histories themselves. Fortunately, a lot of hires from that era have retired or been purged from the force by now.

True, but the culture of corruption lives on. It's going to take a couple generations of gentrification - new people with high levels of education and expectations - to purge the city of built-in graft.

I hate the conflation of gentrification with this a clear cut case of fraud. The gentrifiers are hurt far less than the students living in poverty in DC who are denied opportunities due to the fraud perpetrated by non-residents. When the effective pot for education dollars shrinks who gets the short end of the stick? It's not JKLM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

^^ this

You should be equally aggravated that Deal has accepted 4 OOB 6th graders and 1 8th grader for SY 2016-17.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

^^ this

You should be equally aggravated that Deal has accepted 4 OOB 6th graders and 1 8th grader for SY 2016-17.

that makes no sense. I have no idea why Deal excepted a very small number of OOB students and don't really care (chancellor's discretion likely a factor). It's not the same as denying hundreds of students the opportunity and has little to no impact on the known overcrowding issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is these are police breaking the law

It is ironic, and most recent MPD hires have been quality officers. But if you go back to the bad old Barry administrations, a lot of the cops hired then failed the police exam multiple times and some even had criminal histories themselves. Fortunately, a lot of hires from that era have retired or been purged from the force by now.

True, but the culture of corruption lives on. It's going to take a couple generations of gentrification - new people with high levels of education and expectations - to purge the city of built-in graft.

I hate the conflation of gentrification with this a clear cut case of fraud. The gentrifiers are hurt far less than the students living in poverty in DC who are denied opportunities due to the fraud perpetrated by non-residents. When the effective pot for education dollars shrinks who gets the short end of the stick? It's not JKLM

The gentrifiers aren't going to JKLM. They're going to highly regarded charters and schools on the Hill. They're the population that's needed to change the lousy local DCPSs into desirable ones, but until they're a demographic force in any given neighborhood that's difficult to do. These MPD officers stole from them, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

What, please give more information?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

What, please give more information?

Eaton was kicked over to Hardy. Oyster previously had a choice between Adams & Deal, now has a choice between Adams & Hardy. It should be good for Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is these are police breaking the law

It is ironic, and most recent MPD hires have been quality officers. But if you go back to the bad old Barry administrations, a lot of the cops hired then failed the police exam multiple times and some even had criminal histories themselves. Fortunately, a lot of hires from that era have retired or been purged from the force by now.

True, but the culture of corruption lives on. It's going to take a couple generations of gentrification - new people with high levels of education and expectations - to purge the city of built-in graft.

I hate the conflation of gentrification with this a clear cut case of fraud. The gentrifiers are hurt far less than the students living in poverty in DC who are denied opportunities due to the fraud perpetrated by non-residents. When the effective pot for education dollars shrinks who gets the short end of the stick? It's not JKLM

The gentrifiers aren't going to JKLM. They're going to highly regarded charters and schools on the Hill. They're the population that's needed to change the lousy local DCPSs into desirable ones, but until they're a demographic force in any given neighborhood that's difficult to do. These MPD officers stole from them, too.

None of them are choosing between Orr and coveted spot at KIPP or DC Prep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

What, please give more information?

Eaton was kicked over to Hardy. Oyster previously had a choice between Adams & Deal, now has a choice between Adams & Hardy. It should be good for Hardy.

I think it's Adams or SWW @ FS, not Hardy. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY16-17%20School%20Feeder%20Patterns%20-%20Revised.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

I disagree. DC Taxpayers are all victims! These were two police officers who are sworn to uphold the laws.

Absolutely. I completely agree that Blue Lives Matter, and this makes everyone look bad.

What are you talking about "Blue Lives Matter"?! What is that? Do you mean Black Lives Matter? Anyway, WTH does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

What, please give more information?

Eaton was kicked over to Hardy. Oyster previously had a choice between Adams & Deal, now has a choice between Adams & Hardy. It should be good for Hardy.

I think it's Adams or SWW @ FS, not Hardy. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY16-17%20School%20Feeder%20Patterns%20-%20Revised.pdf

I'm an Oyster parent (my kids are too young for Adams). As a result of losing Deal as an option, I have been told by Adams' parents that Adams has retained a record number of students. This is great news for Adams!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

I disagree. DC Taxpayers are all victims! These were two police officers who are sworn to uphold the laws.

Absolutely. I completely agree that Blue Lives Matter, and this makes everyone look bad.

What are you talking about "Blue Lives Matter"?! What is that? Do you mean Black Lives Matter? Anyway, WTH does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

"Blue Lives Matter" is a reference to police. Apparently the defendants were with MPD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

I disagree. DC Taxpayers are all victims! These were two police officers who are sworn to uphold the laws.

Absolutely. I completely agree that Blue Lives Matter, and this makes everyone look bad.

What are you talking about "Blue Lives Matter"?! What is that? Do you mean Black Lives Matter? Anyway, WTH does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

"Blue Lives Matter" is a reference to police. Apparently the defendants were with MPD.

Wait, there is a "blue" movement now? Ok clearly there are a ton of people who don't understand Black Lives Matter. But I guess this should be another thread.

[Anonymous]

I have never posted before, but for what it is worth, I thought I would. This is old news that is resurfacing for whatever reason. The students have been out of DCPS for at least 2 years now. I remember when the father informed me of the children not returning and why. It is unfortunate. Both parents were assigned to that district to work, and not only was the drop-off convenient, but they ORIGINALLY lived in DC. While they did move, the house in DC was not an investment property as the dad was living there. But "shame" on him for wanting his family to be together? For moving to Accokeek so his children would see him nightly...The investigation would have never happened if it had not been for office politics within the police department. Was what they did wrong? Yes. Can we all have empathy? We should if we are human. Is the penalty fair? It's what the law calls for, but there is no grace in it.
Those parents served that community well. Their children were kind, well-behaved, an assets to the learning and extra-curricular body. They are still missed.
The law was handed out. Don't drag their badges or who they are through the dust because you feel you would be more likely to have a coveted spot at one of the schools where their students attended. The law is dragging their bank accounts and their names through the dust and media... that's punishment enough.
How easily we judge...I can't blame them when I see teachers and principals who travel from Baltimore and rural Virginia in order to teach children here in the district, and yet see their children less because their commute is so far. It is about convenience. And quietly as it is kept finding a job as a teacher isn't easy, so the solution of teaching where one lives isn't always possible. My two cents...may we look on others with the grace we wish to receive...lest we make a mistake and karma only give us justice.