Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Principals are mandated reporters. All members of MCPS staff are. I'd had to call CPS numerous times. And almost every time it has been "ruled out". After we make that call, we fill out the form and hand it to administrations. And that's it. we've done our part. They never tel is what the outcome of an investigation is.

Idk this case specifically but there is a clear chain of command in MCPS.

I just completed the online RRCAN refresher. It really bothered me to be instructed to NOT keep a copy of the form after I submit it. You can be sure as hell I'm keeping a copy. I might keep it until the day I die, just in case someone ever accuses me of not following through on suspected abuse. There is no way that I'd ever knowingly or with reasonable suspicion allow a child to be abused. (MCPS teacher and CSA survivor)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's me being naive, but Is sitting on someone's lap worthy of calling CPS?

Well he was instructed NOT to do that anymore, so maybe there was more to it than that?

But, honestly, yes. I don't want my kid's 3rd grade teacher holding my DS or DD on his lap. WTF??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Principals are mandated reporters. All members of MCPS staff are. I'd had to call CPS numerous times. And almost every time it has been "ruled out". After we make that call, we fill out the form and hand it to administrations. And that's it. we've done our part. They never tel is what the outcome of an investigation is.

Idk this case specifically but there is a clear chain of command in MCPS.

I just completed the online RRCAN refresher. It really bothered me to be instructed to NOT keep a copy of the form after I submit it. You can be sure as hell I'm keeping a copy. I might keep it until the day I die, just in case someone ever accuses me of not following through on suspected abuse. There is no way that I'd ever knowingly or with reasonable suspicion allow a child to be abused. (MCPS teacher and CSA survivor)

I would absolutely do the same. Why would you not keep a copy?

Like you said, even if just for that reason - to make sure nobody ever accuses you of ignoring child abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's possible CPS ruled out that girls sitting on his lap didn't provide probable cause.

I don't think anyone called CPS. This was all handled internally within MCPS.

MCPS corruption. Shame on them all!

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/he-was-warned-about-getting-too-close-to-students-but-this-maryland-teacher-was-allowed-to-stay-in-the-classroom/2017/08/25/5ac2ad76-7bbe-11e7-a669-b400c5c7e1cc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_localheads-draw6&wpmm=1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/he-was-warned-about-getting-too-close-to-students-but-this-maryland-teacher-was-allowed-to-stay-in-the-classroom/2017/08/25/5ac2ad76-7bbe-11e7-a669-b400c5c7e1cc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_localheads-draw6&wpmm=1

Ugh. Hard to read but thanks for posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/he-was-warned-about-getting-too-close-to-students-but-this-maryland-teacher-was-allowed-to-stay-in-the-classroom/2017/08/25/5ac2ad76-7bbe-11e7-a669-b400c5c7e1cc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_localheads-draw6&wpmm=1

Ugh. Hard to read but thanks for posting.

I am just shaking with fury. He is absolutely dangerous and should be locked up for the rest of his life. MSPC is disgusting. Who are those people covering up for this monster? How can they sleep at night?

[Anonymous]

So, from the Washington Post article:

A top district official reprimanded Vigna in 2013, calling his conduct “indefensible, inappropriate and intolerable.” But the district allowed him to keep teaching, even though state officials months earlier had warned that teachers should be removed from contact with students after repeated and “obvious inappropriate” behavior.

Who was the "top district official?" Name names. That person should be fired, have their pension revoked because they are going to be responsible for the millions of dollars owed in settlement to the victims. One lawsuit has already been filed. If the "top district official" had done their job properly the teacher would have been OUT of the classroom. Instead the "top district official" enables further abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, from the Washington Post article:

A top district official reprimanded Vigna in 2013, calling his conduct “indefensible, inappropriate and intolerable.” But the district allowed him to keep teaching, even though state officials months earlier had warned that teachers should be removed from contact with students after repeated and “obvious inappropriate” behavior.

Who was the "top district official?" Name names. That person should be fired, have their pension revoked because they are going to be responsible for the millions of dollars owed in settlement to the victims. One lawsuit has already been filed. If the "top district official" had done their job properly the teacher would have been OUT of the classroom. Instead the "top district official" enables further abuse.

Well it sounds like at least that person did reprimand Vigna? It was actually MCPS that allowed him to stay in contact with kids. So maybe he is not to blame? But I would like to know who is making these decisions to allow sexual predators repeated access to kids even after they have been reprimanded! At the very least, they should be reviewing policy.

People are wasting their time and energy being outraged about the new school calendar while MCPS is covering up for sexual predators in the school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, from the Washington Post article:

A top district official reprimanded Vigna in 2013, calling his conduct “indefensible, inappropriate and intolerable.” But the district allowed him to keep teaching, even though state officials months earlier had warned that teachers should be removed from contact with students after repeated and “obvious inappropriate” behavior.

Who was the "top district official?" Name names. That person should be fired, have their pension revoked because they are going to be responsible for the millions of dollars owed in settlement to the victims. One lawsuit has already been filed. If the "top district official" had done their job properly the teacher would have been OUT of the classroom. Instead the "top district official" enables further abuse.

The official's name is on the documents. If you read the article on a computer rather than a phone, you can access the documents.

My understanding is that he was only reprimanded rather than fired because no child had accused him yet. Once he was accused, he was removed. This isn't unique to MCPS or teaching. I've seen it with other professions as well, especially medical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, from the Washington Post article:

A top district official reprimanded Vigna in 2013, calling his conduct “indefensible, inappropriate and intolerable.” But the district allowed him to keep teaching, even though state officials months earlier had warned that teachers should be removed from contact with students after repeated and “obvious inappropriate” behavior.

Who was the "top district official?" Name names. That person should be fired, have their pension revoked because they are going to be responsible for the millions of dollars owed in settlement to the victims. One lawsuit has already been filed. If the "top district official" had done their job properly the teacher would have been OUT of the classroom. Instead the "top district official" enables further abuse.

The official's name is on the documents. If you read the article on a computer rather than a phone, you can access the documents.

My understanding is that he was only reprimanded rather than fired because no child had accused him yet. Once he was accused, he was removed. This isn't unique to MCPS or teaching. I've seen it with other professions as well, especially medical.

Your understanding is wrong. Even after the accusation, he was not fired. He was still on the MCPS payroll during the trial.

Lap sitting is not permitted and he repeatedly was reprimanded for having students on his lap. Twice in 2008, multiple times by fellow teachers, and removed from the classroom in 2013 for 3 weeks for an "investigation."

Child Protective Services was not called until 2015. Dozens of people failed to report what they witnesses and knew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/he-was-warned-about-getting-too-close-to-students-but-this-maryland-teacher-was-allowed-to-stay-in-the-classroom/2017/08/25/5ac2ad76-7bbe-11e7-a669-b400c5c7e1cc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_localheads-draw6&wpmm=1

Ugh. Hard to read but thanks for posting.

I am just shaking with fury. He is absolutely dangerous and should be locked up for the rest of his life. MSPC is disgusting. Who are those people covering up for this monster? How can they sleep at night?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Principals are mandated reporters. All members of MCPS staff are. I'd had to call CPS numerous times. And almost every time it has been "ruled out". After we make that call, we fill out the form and hand it to administrations. And that's it. we've done our part. They never tel is what the outcome of an investigation is.

Idk this case specifically but there is a clear chain of command in MCPS.

I just completed the online RRCAN refresher. It really bothered me to be instructed to NOT keep a copy of the form after I submit it. You can be sure as hell I'm keeping a copy. I might keep it until the day I die, just in case someone ever accuses me of not following through on suspected abuse. There is no way that I'd ever knowingly or with reasonable suspicion allow a child to be abused. (MCPS teacher and CSA survivor)

Yes, I agree. I'm a teacher in MCPS and have made numerous calls to CPS. I used to keep a copy of the form but then over the past year or two we've been specifically instructed to not keep a copy. I didn't and now I seriously regret it. When I used to keep a copy of the form I would bring it home and put it away in a locked file cabinet so it's not like it was a privacy issue like it would be by keeping it at school. Ugh, I'm kicking myself now for listening to my principal when my common sense told me not to....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, from the Washington Post article:

A top district official reprimanded Vigna in 2013, calling his conduct “indefensible, inappropriate and intolerable.” But the district allowed him to keep teaching, even though state officials months earlier had warned that teachers should be removed from contact with students after repeated and “obvious inappropriate” behavior.

Who was the "top district official?" Name names. That person should be fired, have their pension revoked because they are going to be responsible for the millions of dollars owed in settlement to the victims. One lawsuit has already been filed. If the "top district official" had done their job properly the teacher would have been OUT of the classroom. Instead the "top district official" enables further abuse.

The official's name is on the documents. If you read the article on a computer rather than a phone, you can access the documents.

My understanding is that he was only reprimanded rather than fired because no child had accused him yet. Once he was accused, he was removed. This isn't unique to MCPS or teaching. I've seen it with other professions as well, especially medical.

Your understanding is wrong. Even after the accusation, he was not fired. He was still on the MCPS payroll during the trial.

Lap sitting is not permitted and he repeatedly was reprimanded for having students on his lap. Twice in 2008, multiple times by fellow teachers, and removed from the classroom in 2013 for 3 weeks for an "investigation."

Child Protective Services was not called until 2015. Dozens of people failed to report what they witnesses and knew.

I didn't say he was fired. I said removed. And he was removed from the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, from the Washington Post article:

A top district official reprimanded Vigna in 2013, calling his conduct “indefensible, inappropriate and intolerable.” But the district allowed him to keep teaching, even though state officials months earlier had warned that teachers should be removed from contact with students after repeated and “obvious inappropriate” behavior.

Who was the "top district official?" Name names. That person should be fired, have their pension revoked because they are going to be responsible for the millions of dollars owed in settlement to the victims. One lawsuit has already been filed. If the "top district official" had done their job properly the teacher would have been OUT of the classroom. Instead the "top district official" enables further abuse.

The official's name is on the documents. If you read the article on a computer rather than a phone, you can access the documents.

My understanding is that he was only reprimanded rather than fired because no child had accused him yet. Once he was accused, he was removed. This isn't unique to MCPS or teaching. I've seen it with other professions as well, especially medical.

Your understanding is wrong. Even after the accusation, he was not fired. He was still on the MCPS payroll during the trial.

Lap sitting is not permitted and he repeatedly was reprimanded for having students on his lap. Twice in 2008, multiple times by fellow teachers, and removed from the classroom in 2013 for 3 weeks for an "investigation."

Child Protective Services was not called until 2015. Dozens of people failed to report what they witnesses and knew.

I didn't say he was fired. I said removed. And he was removed from the school.