Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

Anonymous
There's a news conference today, according to PC.

http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/

WHEN/WHERE: TODAY (THURSDAY), August 10th, 2017 at 1:30 pm in front of
Montgomery County Public Schools
850 Hungerford Drive
Rockville, MD 20850
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a news conference today, according to PC.

http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/

WHEN/WHERE: TODAY (THURSDAY), August 10th, 2017 at 1:30 pm in front of
Montgomery County Public Schools
850 Hungerford Drive
Rockville, MD 20850


http://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2017/08/montgomery-co-school-board-sued-millions-ex-teachers-molestation-kids/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when MCPS's half-assed background investigation is a fingerprint check.


What background investigation would have turned this up?


none honestly

If you have a "clean" record when you are going through a background check, you obviously have nothing in your history that's alarming. That isn't to say that you're absolutely clean. You could have committed perverted acts w/o being caught.

Pervs are all over the place. Sadly, when they're in schools, they have access to children - but so do coaches and people in the clergy and daycare providers and . . . You get the picture.

You simply have to try to equip your children with the skills to recognize sick behavior and the strength to tell someone immediately. Yes, very young children are most vulnerable, and that's when it's up to the organization to ensure that no one is left alone with a child. Ideally, having two educators in a room would be a start. But with all the complaints about PS costs, this would never fly.

This guy was given the opportunity to be alone with kids. That's the issue. I tell my children that if they are alone with a teacher (and I'm one myself, folks) they need to sit by a door, and the door should be open. If they sense something is odd with the behavior, they should not be afraid to leave and they should always tell another adult asap - as well as us.

I don't want to alarm my children - or make them live in fear - but predators are groomers. Once they gain your trust (and who better to gain trust than a teacher who's with children all day), they make bolder moves.

As parents, it's our responsibility to talk to our children at every stage of the game. This doesn't stop in high school, folks. Attention from a favorite teacher is flattering (and of course, sick).

What also worries me is that he worked with special needs children at Paint Branch through their bocce club. talk about a vulnerable population

He's a sick fuck, but he's not the only one unfortunately.



You are sadly mistaken and sound like you come from the office that does the failed "background checks". A real background check would involve interviewing coworkers, former employers, aquaintences, and even parents. Somewhere along the way someone would have noticed something amiss and his attraction to children. MCPS's version of a background check is to show up at one of the many fingerprinting centers in the county, get printed, having the prints submitted to a nationwide database, and then being declared in the clear because you've never been caught before.



MCPS knew. Parents coalition covered the trial. http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2017/06/in-2013-mcps-coo-larry-bowers-defied.html




MCPS knew? Of course they knew after the police arrested him.


Nice try PR but wrong. MCPS knew for years. The principal knew. He violated policy. They told him to stop.
He refused to stop "lap sitting."
The fire Marshall reported him.
The custodian reported him.
MCPS knew.
Try protecting children for once.

+1,000,000
The victim's parents are suing MCPS for millions. I hope to God they win. That's the only way MCPS will start to protect the children. Until then, how do you send your child there?
Anonymous
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It's a ridiculously long jail-time for inappropriate fondling, to be honest. This is the kind of sentence rapists get.
It's dangerous to conflate minor and major offenses.

How sad for this man and his family. He should have been sentenced to way less years, mandated therapy, and no possibility of working with minors.

This is how I would expect a child molester to respond.

Beware. There are more of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when MCPS's half-assed background investigation is a fingerprint check.


What background investigation would have turned this up?


none honestly

If you have a "clean" record when you are going through a background check, you obviously have nothing in your history that's alarming. That isn't to say that you're absolutely clean. You could have committed perverted acts w/o being caught.

Pervs are all over the place. Sadly, when they're in schools, they have access to children - but so do coaches and people in the clergy and daycare providers and . . . You get the picture.

You simply have to try to equip your children with the skills to recognize sick behavior and the strength to tell someone immediately. Yes, very young children are most vulnerable, and that's when it's up to the organization to ensure that no one is left alone with a child. Ideally, having two educators in a room would be a start. But with all the complaints about PS costs, this would never fly.

This guy was given the opportunity to be alone with kids. That's the issue. I tell my children that if they are alone with a teacher (and I'm one myself, folks) they need to sit by a door, and the door should be open. If they sense something is odd with the behavior, they should not be afraid to leave and they should always tell another adult asap - as well as us.

I don't want to alarm my children - or make them live in fear - but predators are groomers. Once they gain your trust (and who better to gain trust than a teacher who's with children all day), they make bolder moves.

As parents, it's our responsibility to talk to our children at every stage of the game. This doesn't stop in high school, folks. Attention from a favorite teacher is flattering (and of course, sick).

What also worries me is that he worked with special needs children at Paint Branch through their bocce club. talk about a vulnerable population

He's a sick fuck, but he's not the only one unfortunately.



You are sadly mistaken and sound like you come from the office that does the failed "background checks". A real background check would involve interviewing coworkers, former employers, aquaintences, and even parents. Somewhere along the way someone would have noticed something amiss and his attraction to children. MCPS's version of a background check is to show up at one of the many fingerprinting centers in the county, get printed, having the prints submitted to a nationwide database, and then being declared in the clear because you've never been caught before.



MCPS knew. Parents coalition covered the trial. http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2017/06/in-2013-mcps-coo-larry-bowers-defied.html




MCPS knew? Of course they knew after the police arrested him.


Nice try PR but wrong. MCPS knew for years. The principal knew. He violated policy. They told him to stop.
He refused to stop "lap sitting."
The fire Marshall reported him.
The custodian reported him.
MCPS knew.
Try protecting children for once.

+1,000,000
The victim's parents are suing MCPS for millions. I hope to God they win. That's the only way MCPS will start to protect the children. Until then, how do you send your child there?


I also agree that I hope they win. Seems like they have a strong case, and hopefully they can help bring to light MCPS's strong record of covering up for child molesters.

It is definitely disconcerting and I'm sure many parents are concerned by the MCPS 'Culture of Coverup'.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It's a ridiculously long jail-time for inappropriate fondling, to be honest. This is the kind of sentence rapists get.
It's dangerous to conflate minor and major offenses.

How sad for this man and his family. He should have been sentenced to way less years, mandated therapy, and no possibility of working with minors.


Are you F'in kidding me??

The victim is now 12. She was molested in the 2013 school year, so she could have been around 9. A NINE year old girl is the victim here. That's DISGUSTING.

After Vigna was reprimanded in 2008 (!) for putting girls on his lap. How many other victims must there have been from 2008 until he was caught.

No, I don't feel sad for this man at all. It's disturbing that you do, and that other MCPS staff members are out there wearing 'VignaStrong' T-shirts.
Anonymous
I'm so upset about how MCPS is protecting these vicious criminals.

I hope this monster abuser of innocent children gets raped to death in jail. That's exactly what he deserves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when MCPS's half-assed background investigation is a fingerprint check.


What background investigation would have turned this up?



A thorough one where people are actually interviewed. You know like, "have you ever noticed him putting himself into a position where he is surrounded by young girls". Or have heard any rumors about him and developing relationships with young girls"? If the police and fire department can conduct such investigations why can't the schools?

Any idea?
Anonymous
Holy shit. This is an awful story. How can the principal live with herself? Why didn't she quit and go to the police?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Holy shit. This is an awful story. How can the principal live with herself? Why didn't she quit and go to the police?

Rampant corruption in MCPS. Evil fu**ers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Holy shit. This is an awful story. How can the principal live with herself? Why didn't she quit and go to the police?


It wasn't just the principal! Did you see the link to the other article?

There was a team of teachers who showed up in support of Vigna. Picture of them in #VignaStrong shirts. So gross.
Anonymous
Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


You would have broken the law. Mandatory reporters must report to police or cops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal


You would have broken the law. Mandatory reporters must report to police or cops.


the law and ethics.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not giving the principal an out, but she followed the chain of command. She reported him to her superiors, moved him back into the classroom, and followed directions from her superiors on how to proceed next. I would've done the same thing.

-NY Principal

You are DESPICABLE. Shame on you! Hope you get sued for protecting predators.
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