Cloverly Elementary teacher charged with sexual offenses

[Anonymous]

If anyone hears an update tomorrow, please post here.

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone hears an update tomorrow, please post here.

http://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2017/08/ex-teacher-faces-sentencing-on-child-sexual-abuse-charges/

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48 years

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Who believes he's truly guilty?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who believes he's truly guilty?

A jury of his peers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who believes he's truly guilty?

I do!

Who believes he's innocent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who believes he's truly guilty?

I do!

Who believes he's innocent?

http://wtop.com/maryland/2017/08/supporters-sexual-abusers-damaging/

[Anonymous]

It's a ridiculously long jail-time for inappropriate fondling, to be honest. This is the kind of sentence rapists get.
It's dangerous to conflate minor and major offenses.

How sad for this man and his family. He should have been sentenced to way less years, mandated therapy, and no possibility of working with minors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who believes he's truly guilty?

I do!

Who believes he's innocent?

http://wtop.com/maryland/2017/08/supporters-sexual-abusers-damaging/

Ugh. That's tough. Thanks for posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's a ridiculously long jail-time for inappropriate fondling, to be honest. This is the kind of sentence rapists get.
It's dangerous to conflate minor and major offenses.

How sad for this man and his family. He should have been sentenced to way less years, mandated therapy, and no possibility of working with minors.

Well, I'm not too sad for this man (he's guilty, after all!), but 48 years for groping seems a bit much. Real rapists are often sentence to 20, and then get paroled in 5 years!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's a ridiculously long jail-time for inappropriate fondling, to be honest. This is the kind of sentence rapists get.
It's dangerous to conflate minor and major offenses.

How sad for this man and his family. He should have been sentenced to way less years, mandated therapy, and no possibility of working with minors.

Please. How sad for this man and his family? That is your first thought? Gross.

How sad for the girls he molested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who believes he's truly guilty?

I do!

Who believes he's innocent?

http://wtop.com/maryland/2017/08/supporters-sexual-abusers-damaging/

FFS. #VignaStrong? What are these people thinking?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when MCPS's half-assed background investigation is a fingerprint check.

What background investigation would have turned this up?

none honestly

If you have a "clean" record when you are going through a background check, you obviously have nothing in your history that's alarming. That isn't to say that you're absolutely clean. You could have committed perverted acts w/o being caught.

Pervs are all over the place. Sadly, when they're in schools, they have access to children - but so do coaches and people in the clergy and daycare providers and . . . You get the picture.

You simply have to try to equip your children with the skills to recognize sick behavior and the strength to tell someone immediately. Yes, very young children are most vulnerable, and that's when it's up to the organization to ensure that no one is left alone with a child. Ideally, having two educators in a room would be a start. But with all the complaints about PS costs, this would never fly.

This guy was given the opportunity to be alone with kids. That's the issue. I tell my children that if they are alone with a teacher (and I'm one myself, folks) they need to sit by a door, and the door should be open. If they sense something is odd with the behavior, they should not be afraid to leave and they should always tell another adult asap - as well as us.

I don't want to alarm my children - or make them live in fear - but predators are groomers. Once they gain your trust (and who better to gain trust than a teacher who's with children all day), they make bolder moves.

As parents, it's our responsibility to talk to our children at every stage of the game. This doesn't stop in high school, folks. Attention from a favorite teacher is flattering (and of course, sick).

What also worries me is that he worked with special needs children at Paint Branch through their bocce club. talk about a vulnerable population

He's a sick fuck, but he's not the only one unfortunately.

You are sadly mistaken and sound like you come from the office that does the failed "background checks". A real background check would involve interviewing coworkers, former employers, aquaintences, and even parents. Somewhere along the way someone would have noticed something amiss and his attraction to children. MCPS's version of a background check is to show up at one of the many fingerprinting centers in the county, get printed, having the prints submitted to a nationwide database, and then being declared in the clear because you've never been caught before.

MCPS knew. Parents coalition covered the trial. http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2017/06/in-2013-mcps-coo-larry-bowers-defied.html

MCPS knew? Of course they knew after the police arrested him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when MCPS's half-assed background investigation is a fingerprint check.

What background investigation would have turned this up?

none honestly

If you have a "clean" record when you are going through a background check, you obviously have nothing in your history that's alarming. That isn't to say that you're absolutely clean. You could have committed perverted acts w/o being caught.

Pervs are all over the place. Sadly, when they're in schools, they have access to children - but so do coaches and people in the clergy and daycare providers and . . . You get the picture.

You simply have to try to equip your children with the skills to recognize sick behavior and the strength to tell someone immediately. Yes, very young children are most vulnerable, and that's when it's up to the organization to ensure that no one is left alone with a child. Ideally, having two educators in a room would be a start. But with all the complaints about PS costs, this would never fly.

This guy was given the opportunity to be alone with kids. That's the issue. I tell my children that if they are alone with a teacher (and I'm one myself, folks) they need to sit by a door, and the door should be open. If they sense something is odd with the behavior, they should not be afraid to leave and they should always tell another adult asap - as well as us.

I don't want to alarm my children - or make them live in fear - but predators are groomers. Once they gain your trust (and who better to gain trust than a teacher who's with children all day), they make bolder moves.

As parents, it's our responsibility to talk to our children at every stage of the game. This doesn't stop in high school, folks. Attention from a favorite teacher is flattering (and of course, sick).

What also worries me is that he worked with special needs children at Paint Branch through their bocce club. talk about a vulnerable population

He's a sick fuck, but he's not the only one unfortunately.

You are sadly mistaken and sound like you come from the office that does the failed "background checks". A real background check would involve interviewing coworkers, former employers, aquaintences, and even parents. Somewhere along the way someone would have noticed something amiss and his attraction to children. MCPS's version of a background check is to show up at one of the many fingerprinting centers in the county, get printed, having the prints submitted to a nationwide database, and then being declared in the clear because you've never been caught before.

MCPS knew. Parents coalition covered the trial. http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2017/06/in-2013-mcps-coo-larry-bowers-defied.html

MCPS knew? Of course they knew after the police arrested him.

Nice try PR but wrong. MCPS knew for years. The principal knew. He violated policy. They told him to stop.
He refused to stop "lap sitting."
The fire Marshall reported him.
The custodian reported him.
MCPS knew.
Try protecting children for once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when MCPS's half-assed background investigation is a fingerprint check.

What background investigation would have turned this up?

none honestly

If you have a "clean" record when you are going through a background check, you obviously have nothing in your history that's alarming. That isn't to say that you're absolutely clean. You could have committed perverted acts w/o being caught.

Pervs are all over the place. Sadly, when they're in schools, they have access to children - but so do coaches and people in the clergy and daycare providers and . . . You get the picture.

You simply have to try to equip your children with the skills to recognize sick behavior and the strength to tell someone immediately. Yes, very young children are most vulnerable, and that's when it's up to the organization to ensure that no one is left alone with a child. Ideally, having two educators in a room would be a start. But with all the complaints about PS costs, this would never fly.

This guy was given the opportunity to be alone with kids. That's the issue. I tell my children that if they are alone with a teacher (and I'm one myself, folks) they need to sit by a door, and the door should be open. If they sense something is odd with the behavior, they should not be afraid to leave and they should always tell another adult asap - as well as us.

I don't want to alarm my children - or make them live in fear - but predators are groomers. Once they gain your trust (and who better to gain trust than a teacher who's with children all day), they make bolder moves.

As parents, it's our responsibility to talk to our children at every stage of the game. This doesn't stop in high school, folks. Attention from a favorite teacher is flattering (and of course, sick).

What also worries me is that he worked with special needs children at Paint Branch through their bocce club. talk about a vulnerable population

He's a sick fuck, but he's not the only one unfortunately.

You are sadly mistaken and sound like you come from the office that does the failed "background checks". A real background check would involve interviewing coworkers, former employers, aquaintences, and even parents. Somewhere along the way someone would have noticed something amiss and his attraction to children. MCPS's version of a background check is to show up at one of the many fingerprinting centers in the county, get printed, having the prints submitted to a nationwide database, and then being declared in the clear because you've never been caught before.

MCPS knew. Parents coalition covered the trial. http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2017/06/in-2013-mcps-coo-larry-bowers-defied.html

MCPS knew? Of course they knew after the police arrested him.

Nice try PR but wrong. MCPS knew for years. The principal knew. He violated policy. They told him to stop.
He refused to stop "lap sitting."
The fire Marshall reported him.
The custodian reported him.
MCPS knew.
Try protecting children for once.

"Every person who has a child in Montgomery County Public Schools wants that child to be safe; wants every child to be wonderful and I’m sure Mr. Vigna was kind and nice to many of his students," Montgomery County State’s Attorney John McCarthy said. "But he also acted improperly with at least four who he now stands convicted of after being represented very, very well at trial. (He was) tried fairly and members of your community selected at random sat in judgment after five days and convicted him of these counts."


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