Downton Abbey - No spoilers!!

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I find the situation with Mrs. Drew to be heartbreaking. After all, they were raising Marigold as their own daughter for some time, until Edith took her away to Downton. It would be like someone taking away one of your own children, yet Robert and Cora don't seem particularly sympathetic. Cora, especially, seems extremely passive about the whole situation and not nearly as empathetic and compassionate toward the Drews as she she should be. I was sobbing when they showed Mrs. Drew rocking Marigold. How awful for her. Even Mr. Drew has the most compassionate way about him. Edith - she should be forever grateful for everything the Drews did for her. How can they possibly tell them to uproot their lives and move? They owe them so much.

Mary has no clue that Edith is Marigold's mother. When Edith finally tells her, I think Mary will have a whole new impression of Edith - and lots more respect for her.

As for Anna, would a simple stitch really hold her cervix secure enough to bear the weight of a baby? That description confused me. If she's been miscarrying at such an early stage, how would she possibly be able to carry a baby to full-term? Maybe the procedure + bedrest? I was glad to see Mary helping Anna through this situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the situation with Mrs. Drew to be heartbreaking. After all, they were raising Marigold as their own daughter for some time, until Edith took her away to Downton. It would be like someone taking away one of your own children, yet Robert and Cora don't seem particularly sympathetic. Cora, especially, seems extremely passive about the whole situation and not nearly as empathetic and compassionate toward the Drews as she she should be. I was sobbing when they showed Mrs. Drew rocking Marigold. How awful for her. Even Mr. Drew has the most compassionate way about him. Edith - she should be forever grateful for everything the Drews did for her. How can they possibly tell them to uproot their lives and move? They owe them so much.

Mary has no clue that Edith is Marigold's mother. When Edith finally tells her, I think Mary will have a whole new impression of Edith - and lots more respect for her.

As for Anna, would a simple stitch really hold her cervix secure enough to bear the weight of a baby? That description confused me. If she's been miscarrying at such an early stage, how would she possibly be able to carry a baby to full-term? Maybe the procedure + bedrest? I was glad to see Mary helping Anna through this situation.

It's called a cerclage and is a procedure that is still commonly used today.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so regarding episode 2:

I think getting the Drews off the land leaves a house vacant for Daisy's FIL, which will then be able to set up a romance with our dear cook Mrs. Patmore, who is so sweet.

Maybe the Drews go to the FIL's house (they swap houses). You know, they make Mrs. Drew out to be unsympathetic but wow this is soooo sh*tty what they have done to her. Very Gatsby-esque of the Grantham family.

I agree with PP that the Carson/Patmore/Hughes sex talk etc. is unrealistic but it was still fun and cute.

I don't think Mary has a clue about Edith--she would have relayed a different vibe when talking to Anna about it. In all her discourse she seems confused as to turns of events but not interested enough to stop and think a moment. Agree with PP who says, blind to Edith.

That doctor is not gay. But maybe the other former suitor of Isobel is.

Again we see Lady Grantham with that weird head cock and upward eyes look--toward Daisy--that was just wrong. And she even had that weird head turn when fuzzed out in the background during other characters' heated conversation about the hospital.

I know they are trying to make Thomas a more sympathetic character, but if you all recall what a horrible bad-a$$ he was in the first season, it's one of those things I don't like about TV--that total remake of a character to keep him in the show. They tried to explain it away with poor Thomas, he's gay and lonely and on drugs, and now recovered. Now (that new maid, the older lady) who Thomas was just blackmailing a while back has this soft spot for him. It is just unrealistic.

No, I don't think it's wrong for her character. Remember, she was brought up in the previous Edwardian times where women where supposed to say nice things and be positive and soothing. So her mannerisms and speech are appropriate for her character.

That's what I've always thought. That it was a proper affectation from her era.

Just like Lady Mary has that irritating head wobble when she speaks. It's like you can see the old lady in her.

I keep hoping that they making her more and more loathsome so we'll cheer when she meets some undignified death. So vile the way she cares more about livestock than people on her estate.

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I definitely think they are setting up the whole partnership between Mary and pigman Drew (Who is super handsome by the way) to come to a confrontation leading to Edith confessing about Marigold. They will tell Mary he has to move, she will ask why everybody cares so much that his wife is attached to Marigold, and it will come out. I agree that it will improve Mary's relationship with Edith, which they're obviously trying to build up now.

Happy Anna after the conversation with the doctor was so cute! I'm so tired of the crying and I thought the conversation between her and Mary was very sweet. I know a lot of people don't like Mary but I think she is fascinating and the best one to watch in the whole show.

Why is everyone being so mean to Thomas? Did I miss something?

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It will not improve Mary's relationship with Edith. Mary loves to sabotage Edith. She will find a way to embarrass her with the information.

Whoever wrote the description of the Bates' marriage earlier, and the poster who said "oh, mister behtts" part? I think that in my head every time they are together on screen.

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely think they are setting up the whole partnership between Mary and pigman Drew (Who is super handsome by the way) to come to a confrontation leading to Edith confessing about Marigold. They will tell Mary he has to move, she will ask why everybody cares so much that his wife is attached to Marigold, and it will come out. I agree that it will improve Mary's relationship with Edith, which they're obviously trying to build up now.

Happy Anna after the conversation with the doctor was so cute! I'm so tired of the crying and I thought the conversation between her and Mary was very sweet. I know a lot of people don't like Mary but I think she is fascinating and the best one to watch in the whole show.

Why is everyone being so mean to Thomas? Did I miss something?

?? He's been a sabotaging asshole since the show started.

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely think they are setting up the whole partnership between Mary and pigman Drew (Who is super handsome by the way) to come to a confrontation leading to Edith confessing about Marigold. They will tell Mary he has to move, she will ask why everybody cares so much that his wife is attached to Marigold, and it will come out. I agree that it will improve Mary's relationship with Edith, which they're obviously trying to build up now.

Happy Anna after the conversation with the doctor was so cute! I'm so tired of the crying and I thought the conversation between her and Mary was very sweet. I know a lot of people don't like Mary but I think she is fascinating and the best one to watch in the whole show.

Why is everyone being so mean to Thomas? Did I miss something?

?? He's been a sabotaging asshole since the show started.

It definitely seems like the hatred for him has picked up. Carson did not used to be so blatantly mean to his face and he seemed generally more accepted by some of the others. Now it seems like he is a total pariah in a way that it didn't before.

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Anonymous wrote:yes, more matthew goode!!

Yes! Where is he??

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Anyone else in love with Mary's blue robe? It's a kimono style and very floaty with a cloud or other white design. I'd love to get something similar.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else in love with Mary's blue robe? It's a kimono style and very floaty with a cloud or other white design. I'd love to get something similar.

Yes! And how cool were the undergarments she was wearing in that same scene.

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I'm in love with almost all of the clothes. So beautiful. I wonder if the actors get to keep any of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the situation with Mrs. Drew to be heartbreaking. After all, they were raising Marigold as their own daughter for some time, until Edith took her away to Downton. It would be like someone taking away one of your own children, yet Robert and Cora don't seem particularly sympathetic. Cora, especially, seems extremely passive about the whole situation and not nearly as empathetic and compassionate toward the Drews as she she should be. I was sobbing when they showed Mrs. Drew rocking Marigold. How awful for her. Even Mr. Drew has the most compassionate way about him. Edith - she should be forever grateful for everything the Drews did for her. How can they possibly tell them to uproot their lives and move? They owe them so much.

Mary has no clue that Edith is Marigold's mother. When Edith finally tells her, I think Mary will have a whole new impression of Edith - and lots more respect for her.

As for Anna, would a simple stitch really hold her cervix secure enough to bear the weight of a baby? That description confused me. If she's been miscarrying at such an early stage, how would she possibly be able to carry a baby to full-term? Maybe the procedure + bedrest? I was glad to see Mary helping Anna through this situation.

The treatment of the Drews was horrible. It proves that no good deed goes unpunished. Mr. Drew was Edith's confidante about Marigold and took the child into his home. Mrs. Drew obviously became attached other and it was horrific when Edith took her back. Mrs. Drew made a valid point that no one was watching Marigold so that she could easily snatch her and take her back to the farm. It had to have been at least 5 minutes for her to take the child and drive away. On the other hand, it might be better if Mrs. Drew is away from the Abbey village as it might help her cope with the loss of Marigold.

The last two episodes have certainly highlighted the disdain of the upper classes for the lower classes: first William's father is tossed out of his tenancy and then the Drews. No wonder socialism took hold in England after WWII.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the situation with Mrs. Drew to be heartbreaking. After all, they were raising Marigold as their own daughter for some time, until Edith took her away to Downton. It would be like someone taking away one of your own children, yet Robert and Cora don't seem particularly sympathetic. Cora, especially, seems extremely passive about the whole situation and not nearly as empathetic and compassionate toward the Drews as she she should be. I was sobbing when they showed Mrs. Drew rocking Marigold. How awful for her. Even Mr. Drew has the most compassionate way about him. Edith - she should be forever grateful for everything the Drews did for her. How can they possibly tell them to uproot their lives and move? They owe them so much.

Mary has no clue that Edith is Marigold's mother. When Edith finally tells her, I think Mary will have a whole new impression of Edith - and lots more respect for her.

As for Anna, would a simple stitch really hold her cervix secure enough to bear the weight of a baby? That description confused me. If she's been miscarrying at such an early stage, how would she possibly be able to carry a baby to full-term? Maybe the procedure + bedrest? I was glad to see Mary helping Anna through this situation.

The treatment of the Drews was horrible. It proves that no good deed goes unpunished. Mr. Drew was Edith's confidante about Marigold and took the child into his home. Mrs. Drew obviously became attached other and it was horrific when Edith took her back. Mrs. Drew made a valid point that no one was watching Marigold so that she could easily snatch her and take her back to the farm. It had to have been at least 5 minutes for her to take the child and drive away. On the other hand, it might be better if Mrs. Drew is away from the Abbey village as it might help her cope with the loss of Marigold.

The last two episodes have certainly highlighted the disdain of the upper classes for the lower classes: first William's father is tossed out of his tenancy and then the Drews. No wonder socialism took hold in England after WWII.

I agree with that Edith was horribly selfish in terms of Marigold.

In terms of the tenants, unfortunately, that was not disdain but the wealthy with the huge mansions just went plain bankrupt. They didn't toss out the tenants out of disdain, but they ran out of money.

Much of Highclere Castle AKA the Downton Abbey exterior was in horrible disrepair. The show helped the family that owned the building from going into complete ruin: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/sep/19/downton-abbey-highclere-castle-tourist-cash-funds-repairs

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yes, more matthew goode!!

Yes! Where is he??

Yes!!!!! Need some male eye candy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yes, more matthew goode!!

Yes! Where is he??

Yes!!!!! Need some male eye candy.

Especially as we are now deprived of Branson ------