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Anonymous wrote:I want Rose back, making trouble and flirting with scandal.

I've been a Downton devotee the entire run, but had a hard time paying attention last night.

I also miss Roses youth, energy, optimism and personality.

+2
Rose was my favorite character. She was the antidote to glum Edith and mean, blase Mary. Where did Rose and her husband go? I can't remember.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want Rose back, making trouble and flirting with scandal.

I've been a Downton devotee the entire run, but had a hard time paying attention last night.

I also miss Roses youth, energy, optimism and personality.

I'll be the voice of dissent. I did not like Rose and am glad she is gone. It was too over the top, for me, both the actress and the character. The other one I couldn't stand, which I guess was the point, was Tom's love interest teacher.

Agree about the teacher. Though I did like her when she was teaching Daisy and not all up in Tom's face.

The blackmailing woman kind of reminded me of the teacher in that they were both so dislikable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want Rose back, making trouble and flirting with scandal.

I've been a Downton devotee the entire run, but had a hard time paying attention last night.

I also miss Roses youth, energy, optimism and personality.

I'll be the voice of dissent. I did not like Rose and am glad she is gone. It was too over the top, for me, both the actress and the character. The other one I couldn't stand, which I guess was the point, was Tom's love interest teacher.

Agree about the teacher. Though I did like her when she was teaching Daisy and not all up in Tom's face.

The blackmailing woman kind of reminded me of the teacher in that they were both so dislikable.

Me too. My bad eyes and I thought it was the teacher for a while.

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Anonymous wrote:At least they've turned down the sappy violin music whenever Bates and the missus have their pathos-filled love scenes.

Oh, Mista Behhhhts.

haha. I want to watch the show with you.

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good show, good ending.

[Anonymous]

The Carson/Hughes relationship is my favorite storyline to date. Carson's declaration of his love for Mrs. Hughes to Mrs. Patmore was easily one of the best scenes of the entire series.

Looking back, I think DA will be most notable for the stories and complex portrayals of its older, less glamorous characters. Mrs Patmore and her breast cancer scare, relationship to emerging household technology, nephew's WWI memorial, mentoring of Daisy. Isabelle and her social views and her romantic life. The Dowager and her Russian past. The unlikely friendship of Isabelle and the Dowager. Carson and Hughes, obviously.

The young characters are really only very interesting for their beautiful clothes and jewelry! Sybil, had she lived, had potential, and Edith could be fantastic this season, if they let her.

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Anonymous wrote:The Carson/Hughes relationship is my favorite storyline to date. Carson's declaration of his love for Mrs. Hughes to Mrs. Patmore was easily one of the best scenes of the entire series.

Looking back, I think DA will be most notable for the stories and complex portrayals of its older, less glamorous characters. Mrs Patmore and her breast cancer scare, relationship to emerging household technology, nephew's WWI memorial, mentoring of Daisy. Isabelle and her social views and her romantic life. The Dowager and her Russian past. The unlikely friendship of Isabelle and the Dowager. Carson and Hughes, obviously.

The young characters are really only very interesting for their beautiful clothes and jewelry! Sybil, had she lived, had potential, and Edith could be fantastic this season, if they let her.

I'm the PP who didn't care for Rose. I agree with you. I think it's the subtlety of the older relationships and their storylines that appeals to me.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like there's some character like the blackmailing bitch in every season. And also, when was Mary's dalliance with Lord Gillingham, anyway? This is 1925 now...

Why the hell does Elizabeth McGovern always cock her head in that mournful way when she delivers her lines? It's very distracting.

I had the exact same thought last night. She also has a particular cadence to her voice that she overuses, IMO.

At least I'm not the only one who notices this. She's been delivering her lines in that very simpering voice since season 1, but for some recent past seasons she keeps bending her neck forward, e.g.,



My guess is she does this when she knows she's in close up and feels self conscious about her neck b/c over the years it's become more crepey.

In the latest episode, she's doing it in discussion with Edith in the hallway and it's so weird b/c when she's shot from behind, she actually raises her head and neck to a normal position when she addresses the butler.

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Anonymous wrote:Five minutes into the season was not the time for a 10 minute slow dialogue between Hughes and the cook about sex!
Other than that, I agree that the show ought to pick up its storylines.

m

DH and I disagree with you. We thought it was the funniest and sweetest scene.

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I totally agree that this episode was boring beyond belief. The Carson and Hughes storyline is sweet, but it does not a series make. We need more drama. More Thomas. Remember the guy dying in Mary's bed, Robert having the affair with the servant, Sybil dying, all the drama about Edith's pregnancy? And now all we get is, will the old people have sex? Will Daisy be reprimanded for speaking out of turn?

And are we supposed to think Bates really didn't do it? Or is there always that air of suspicion?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Five minutes into the season was not the time for a 10 minute slow dialogue between Hughes and the cook about sex!
Other than that, I agree that the show ought to pick up its storylines.

m

DH and I disagree with you. We thought it was the funniest and sweetest scene.

I liked it, too! So awkwardly sweet.

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Loved the Patmore/Hughes sex talk, particularly when Mrs. P had to turn away from his to discuss it.
Loved the Carson/Hughes kiss. Mrs. Hughes was not married; remember she had to keep working to support her mentally ill sister after her mother died.
Mrs. Patmore mentioned that she had never been married to. I think it is the custom among household staff to be "Mrs." if you are of certain rank. It is like the French calling "women of a certain age" Madame even if not married.

Anna seems to have had three times when she missed a period so she may have been having very early miscarriages. This is why she looked so wan -- hair included. Mr. Bates is cunning but he does love his Anna. I forgive him for that.

Moseley and Miss Baxter (not quite of rank or age to be Mrs) are my second dream couple after Isobel and Dr. Clarkson. When Isobel huffed out of his office, I crumbled. What does that man have to do to get Isobel's attention. Now that she has given Merton (the dullard of dullards) the heave ho, I hope the boring hospital story line bring Clarkson and Isobel together.

I have to say Michael Gregson's flat was pretty spectacular. Even then it was worth plenty. I bet it is at least 2 to 3 million pounds now. Edith and Marigold should move there and Edith should run the magazine. If the male editor acts up, she can hire a female editor who will be twice as good. I saw the actor who played Michael Gregson in a horrible PBS production called Arthur and George. He played Arthur Conan Doyle's manservant. The entire time, I felt bad for Edith. He really loved her.

I miss Tom, too. The latest blackmail maid did look like the horrendous school teacher and even sounded like her. I wonder if that was intentional?

Lady Grantham's pussycat voice and act is kinda silly. Then when she tried to get tough and say she was taking on the Dowager Lady Violet over the hospital, I had to giggle. Talk about the Lion and the pussycat. Violet will mop the floor with her American daughter-in-law

I didn't like Rose until she was no longer there. She and he husband are in New York. She did breathe life into the show.

The only good thing about Mary is the appearance of Matthew Goode as her suitor. I don't care what happens to her, I just want that piece of eye candy Goode around.

Thomas still creeps me out.

I miss Isis, but we all know her name did her in.

ODG I need a life.

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I feel the same way about Rose. She annoyed me at the time, but now I see that she actually was an interesting character compared to some of the others. The woman who plays Edith is a good actress and they really should build up her storyline more. She just gets totally overshadowed by Mary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I totally agree that this episode was boring beyond belief. The Carson and Hughes storyline is sweet, but it does not a series make. We need more drama. More Thomas. Remember the guy dying in Mary's bed, Robert having the affair with the servant, Sybil dying, all the drama about Edith's pregnancy? And now all we get is, will the old people have sex? Will Daisy be reprimanded for speaking out of turn?

And are we supposed to think Bates really didn't do it? Or is there always that air of suspicion?

Agree with everything. Except - Bates really didn't do it. He's a good man.

[Anonymous]

yes, more matthew goode!!