FCPS Has Top Schools with NMSFs, APS Lags

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Anonymous wrote:Over the past five years top schools in FCPS have had far more NMSF than high schools in APS.

1. TJ 726
2. Langley 52
3. McLean 48
4. Madison 45
5. Oakton 43
6. Woodson 38
7. Washington-Lee 32
8. Yorktown 25
9. Marshall 23
10. Herndon 18
11. Chantilly/South Lakes 15 (tie)

For the Class of 2016 there were 238 NMSF at Fairfax high schools and only 8 at Arlington high schools.

Step it up, APS!

Hearing how few APS students attend TJ, this data has us thinking we'd be better off in FCPS. It doesn't matter how much you pay the teachers, if you don't have programs in place to challenge students and don't attract the brighter kids.

Umm... There are only a few slots for APS students to attend TJ... So, yeah- there is going to be only a few kids....

Yep, about 15 APS students are admitted to TJ every year.

If you reallocate the NMSFs from TJ to their base schools based on the current number of students from each HS pyramid now at TJ (and assuming the students from APS come from Yorktown and W-L in equal numbers and are named NMSFs in proportion to their numbers at TJ), you'd roughly get these adjusted NMSF figures.

It's a numerical exercise, but it gives you an indication as to how schools in FCPS end up attracting more high-achieving students than the APS high schools. It is likely due to the strength of the AAP programs in FCPS and the greater access to TJ, both of which attract families (many Asian) who place a priority on education.

1. Langley 120
2. McLean 112
3. Oakton 104
4. Madison 70
5. Chantilly 69
6. Woodson 69
7. South Lakes 48
8. Marshall 46
9. Washington-Lee 44
10. Yorktown 37
11. Herndon 30

And HB Woodlawn has been omitted because...?

1. The actual numbers were lower than the other 11 schools over the five-year period (9 NMSF).
2. It doesn't make sense to reallocate any NMSF from TJ to an APS program that is attended by students who already live in-boundary for Yorktown, W-L or Wakefield.

Also, I realized that APS has identified the exact number of TJ students from APS who've been NMSF over the past five years - 30.

So assuming that the majority are from Yorktown and W-L compared to Wakefield, a better estimate of adjusted numbers would be:

1. Langley 120
2. McLean 112
3. Oakton 104
4. Madison 70
5. Chantilly 69
6. Woodson 69
7. South Lakes 48
8. Marshall 46
9. Washington-Lee 46
10. Yorktown 39
11. Herndon 30

Yeah except there nmsf who choose HB over Tj... So those kids don't count?

Those kids logically would only count at HB Woodlawn, which has had nine NMSF over the past five years.

If you thought some APS students who did go to TJ otherwise would have attended HB, you might reallocate some of the 30 TJ NMSF from Arlington over the past five years to HB, as opposed to the neighborhood high schools in APS. That would bring down the (hypothetical) number at W-L and Yorktown and increase the number associated with HB.

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I thought nmsf was about sat scores. Didn't HB have the second highest to TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought nmsf was about sat scores. Didn't HB have the second highest to TJ?

That would not surprise me. It attracts smart kids, but it's also a small program, with enrollment about 1/5 or 1/6 that of other high schools in APS or FCPS.

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Unless your kid is a national merit finalist, how does any of this even matter?

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is a national merit finalist, how does any of this even matter?

Strong peer groups matter.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is a national merit finalist, how does any of this even matter?

Strong peer groups matter.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia

Particularly if you're worried that your own kid doesn't have the stuff to push on his/her own. IMO most parents who worry about this type of thing don't have much faith in their kid's intelligence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is a national merit finalist, how does any of this even matter?

Strong peer groups matter.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia

Particularly if you're worried that your own kid doesn't have the stuff to push on his/her own. IMO most parents who worry about this type of thing don't have much faith in their kid's intelligence.

Your opinion matters very, very little on such matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is a national merit finalist, how does any of this even matter?

Strong peer groups matter.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia

Particularly if you're worried that your own kid doesn't have the stuff to push on his/her own. IMO most parents who worry about this type of thing don't have much faith in their kid's intelligence.

Your opinion matters very, very little on such matters.

Whatever you say, lemming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is a national merit finalist, how does any of this even matter?

Strong peer groups matter.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia

Particularly if you're worried that your own kid doesn't have the stuff to push on his/her own. IMO most parents who worry about this type of thing don't have much faith in their kid's intelligence.

Your opinion matters very, very little on such matters.

Whatever you say, lemming.

Bwahahaha. Arlington is Ground Zero for White Lemmings.