FCPS Has Top Schools with NMSFs, APS Lags

[Anonymous]

Over the past five years top schools in FCPS have had far more NMSF than high schools in APS.

1. TJ 726
2. Langley 52
3. McLean 48
4. Madison 45
5. Oakton 43
6. Woodson 38
7. Washington-Lee 32
8. Yorktown 25
9. Marshall 23
10. Herndon 18
11. Chantilly/South Lakes 15 (tie)

For the Class of 2016 there were 238 NMSF at Fairfax high schools and only 8 at Arlington high schools.

Step it up, APS!

[Anonymous]

You really need to get a life. Who cares.

[Anonymous]

When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Soooo, I guess I have to Google "NMSF"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

Different PP. Not exactly fair since a greater share of FCPS attends TJ. Other than this I agree with your rational and don't think it's worth saying one is better than the other because of this specific statistic.

[Anonymous]

Get rid of TJ, then we'll talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

If the TJ kids were all placed back in their assigned schools, they'd still be NMSFs, and most of them would factor into the FCPS numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

You can't exclude TJ in this comparison because it's pulling so many Fairfax County students from other high schools. 80% of those FCPS students could be around 580 students from FCPS that received this recognition. It's a significant number. To be accurate you'd have to know exactly which school system each NMSF at TJ came from, but to estimate you could just take the numbers of NMSF times the percentage of TJ students from each county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

You can't exclude TJ in this comparison because it's pulling so many Fairfax County students from other high schools. 80% of those FCPS students could be around 580 students from FCPS that received this recognition. It's a significant number. To be accurate you'd have to know exactly which school system each NMSF at TJ came from, but to estimate you could just take the numbers of NMSF times the percentage of TJ students from each county.

Oh, FFS. Half the applicants -- literally -- were Asian. It's self-selecting and an outlier. Besides, interest in TJ is waning -- applications were down 14% last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

If the TJ kids were all placed back in their assigned schools, they'd still be NMSFs, and most of them would factor into the FCPS numbers.

Hardly. South Korea is another country -- it's not in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

You can't exclude TJ in this comparison because it's pulling so many Fairfax County students from other high schools. 80% of those FCPS students could be around 580 students from FCPS that received this recognition. It's a significant number. To be accurate you'd have to know exactly which school system each NMSF at TJ came from, but to estimate you could just take the numbers of NMSF times the percentage of TJ students from each county.

Oh, FFS. Half the applicants -- literally -- were Asian. It's self-selecting and an outlier. Besides, interest in TJ is waning -- applications were down 14% last year.

Huh? This last comment makes no sense in the context here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

You can't exclude TJ in this comparison because it's pulling so many Fairfax County students from other high schools. 80% of those FCPS students could be around 580 students from FCPS that received this recognition. It's a significant number. To be accurate you'd have to know exactly which school system each NMSF at TJ came from, but to estimate you could just take the numbers of NMSF times the percentage of TJ students from each county.

Oh, FFS. Half the applicants -- literally -- were Asian. It's self-selecting and an outlier. Besides, interest in TJ is waning -- applications were down 14% last year.

Do Asians not count in your world? What a strange remark. My guess is a lot of NMSF students are into places like TJ so they would be attracted to "outlier" stem schools whether in APS or FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you were destroyed in the last thread where you brought this up, the relative size of the two school systems is pertinent.

FCPS has 180,000 students. APS has less than 20,000.

Excluding TJ (a magnet school that pulls from all over, including Arlington) that's 289 for the 8 FCPS schools you listed compared to 57 for the two APS schools on the list.

That's one NMSF for every 623 FCPs students and one for every 350 APS student.

So, just stop. You've embarrassed yourself. Try to limit yourself to one ass-kicking a week, mkay? Thanks.

80% of TJ comes from Fairfax so there is no legitimate reason to exclude it. And, even if you did, the top neighborhood high schools in FCPS consistently outperform the Arlington schools, whether it's average SATs, the number of NMSFs, or US News ratings.

Arlington can't even punch, much less punch at its weight.

Of course you exclude TJ. That's like saying Boston's the best city in America cuz of Haaahvard. TJ is, by definition, an outlier.

(Harvard isn't in Boston)