Gun found at Wilson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poster arguing that expulsion is too harsh - what are your thoughts on what message it sends to the other students if bringing a gun to class doesn't even warrant the harshest penalty? Also, what are your thoughts on how such a situation would impact the work environment/ability to attract and retain teachers? I'm going to assume not many teachers look to work in a place where bringing guns to school is tolerated. There is part of me that understands where you're coming from, but I also think the picture is much bigger than just one student.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poster arguing that expulsion is too harsh - what are your thoughts on what message it sends to the other students if bringing a gun to class doesn't even warrant the harshest penalty? Also, what are your thoughts on how such a situation would impact the work environment/ability to attract and retain teachers? I'm going to assume not many teachers look to work in a place where bringing guns to school is tolerated. There is part of me that understands where you're coming from, but I also think the picture is much bigger than just one student.

I'm not saying expulsion is too harsh. I'm saying that automatically expelling the child without any knowledge of the circumstances is poor judgement. I prefer to have all the facts at hand before rendering a decision.

Obviously, we differ in our approach to problem-solving.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, at least they seem to be quick on the trigger in communication.

Firing off emails, left and right!

They probably could have included a few more bullet points.

Probably under the gun to get this out ASAP.

Come on, guys, don't shoot the messenger.

I think this news release had DCUM in it's crosshairs.

These are awesome

[Anonymous]

Heartbroken for the kid and whatever he is going through. My DC said the student was liked but also says that Wilson feels less safe this year - the atmosphere is more rowdy especially between classes.

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Funny, my kid said just yesterday morning (before school) that Wilson felt much calmer with the new principal and that it was crazy with fights everyday with the old principal who she loved.
Of course what happened yesterday kind of nullifies her comments.

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This student should be expelled, hands down.

Do we need to wait for someone to be killed?

There could very well have been a death if this gun was not confiscated.

Suspension? Forget about it.

He broke the law on so many levels.

[Anonymous]

I spoke with a police officer the other day, pointing out a student throwing rocks at passersby on Wisconsin after school. I have heard repeatedly on this thread that police are asked by the school to 'go soft' on such nonsense..is this true? The problem.ia that if you don't draw the line somewhere and intervene as responsible adults, then kids do escalate. Whether the weapons are brought to hurt someone or as protection from being hurt - that should not happen twice in a week. Speaks to the school being run by student giving in to their worst instincts, rather than adults leading them to their Hughes expectations. This needs to be addressed in partnership with community and police; Wilson is not a silo.

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Sorry - high expectations. I am not a nanny state person and I love kids. Kids should not have to navigate this kind of nonsense to get an education, nor should residents trying to get in and out of metro. Start with a dress and language code and yes, crack down on the little stuff. My child attended a school in a different neighborhood and the students were read the riot act about how to behave in the neighborhood coming and going. Was behavior perfect? Of course not. But the school was very clear about where it stood and did not wash its hands of addressing conduct. A kid bringing a gun to 'feel safe' will be a scandal if that is true; however, we do not know enough.

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And sorry - a little repetitive. But am.hoping this makes people take a look at what's going on. All of these kids deserve better.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster arguing that expulsion is too harsh - what are your thoughts on what message it sends to the other students if bringing a gun to class doesn't even warrant the harshest penalty? Also, what are your thoughts on how such a situation would impact the work environment/ability to attract and retain teachers? I'm going to assume not many teachers look to work in a place where bringing guns to school is tolerated. There is part of me that understands where you're coming from, but I also think the picture is much bigger than just one student.

I'm not saying expulsion is too harsh. I'm saying that automatically expelling the child without any knowledge of the circumstances is poor judgement. I prefer to have all the facts at hand before rendering a decision.

Obviously, we differ in our approach to problem-solving.

What circumstances matter? That he usually carries the gun, but "forgot" he had it when he went to school? That he comes from a poor background? That he needs the gun to give him self-esteem? That the gun creates a "safe space" for him?!

Sorry, but I just don't see any circumstances (short of someone else planting the gun without his knowledge) that should mitigate his immediate expulsion from the school. He's created a danger for himself and others.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC knows the young man who had the gun, says he's smart and funny but been very withdrawn this year. I am glad the gun was reported, and no one was hurt. I hope the youngster gets the help he needs, someplace other than Wilson

Very disturbing. Kid needs help and expulsion.

Perhaps suspension would be more appropriate. "Help" and expulsion seem like contrary approaches.

You've introduced something of a hollow point.

Any help should be in a juvenile detention center. His Wilson days should be over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I spoke with a police officer the other day, pointing out a student throwing rocks at passersby on Wisconsin after school. I have heard repeatedly on this thread that police are asked by the school to 'go soft' on such nonsense..is this true? The problem.ia that if you don't draw the line somewhere and intervene as responsible adults, then kids do escalate. Whether the weapons are brought to hurt someone or as protection from being hurt - that should not happen twice in a week. Speaks to the school being run by student giving in to their worst instincts, rather than adults leading them to their Hughes expectations. This needs to be addressed in partnership with community and police; Wilson is not a silo.

This is true, unfortunately. I heard the same thing from a Metro cop -- a different police force -- in the Tenleytown station about 18 months ago. That was when Cahall was principal. I had hoped it had changed under the new principal, but it's still the same administrative apparachiks in place beneath her, so probably little is different.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if it was a real gun. Those airsoft pellet guns look pretty realistic. That's what got the kid in Cleveland shot.

Shouldn't the metal detector operator still have stopped that, if it was that?

If you have ever seen the morning stream of kids, I am not surprised something got through. There is a lot happening in a very short time.

So you're saying that it's basically "security theater", DC style?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, fuck this Shepherd Park cachement to Wilson. I am not sending my kid to a school with metal detectors.

WTF does that mean?

You won't be missed. BYE!

+1. Please tell me you were joking. Current Wilson kids come from all parts of DC including Mt Pleasant, Crestwood, SW and others that are not your lily white kids. Most shepherd Park kids go private/Jewish schools. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

+1. Unless this PP knows something the rest of us don't, I would be very, very surprised if it was a kid from Shepherd Park.

I don't care if a kid comes from Shepherd Park or American University Park. If s/he sneaks a gun into school, the student should be expelled. I wouldn't want my kid to be in school in the same building with someone who brings a gun to school. Would you want that for your children?

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Well, at least they seem to be quick on the trigger in communication.

Firing off emails, left and right!

They probably could have included a few more bullet points.

Probably under the gun to get this out ASAP.

Come on, guys, don't shoot the messenger.

I think this news release had DCUM in it's crosshairs.

These are awesome

We're glad you appreciated them. Some people would rather have seen the school be caught empty-handed when the news trucks arrived.