American Sniper

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm liberal and I do not hate the men and women in the military at all. I'm related to a Colonel in the US Army who is a highly intelligent and dedicated man, and I have tremendous respect for him.

But if the way Kyle is being portrayed is at all true, then I do not care for who that man was.

The 'if' is the problem. Any chance you plan to read his book, study up on the man, and make your own decision?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if someone could quote me the exact Chris Kyle line where he says he loves killing people.

What I read was this:

“The enemy are savages and despicably evil,” and his “only regret is that I didn’t kill more.”

He is correct about this. I think we can all agree terrorists are savages and despicably evil. Certainly IS fits that bill.

Except he wasn't fighting IS. And there was no terrorist threat from Iraq prior to our invasion and botched occupation. So he was mindlessly killing people whom his beloved military essentially created. The Iraq War a disgusting criminal misuse of power and I can't for the life of le understand why people who volunteer to serve go out of their way to justify it. Soldiers died for absolutely no good reason, and the war achieved nothing. We killed Saddam Hussein. Big whoop. We also created a terrorist breeding ground - which is what created this need to protect our troops. Why can't people see that this is nit black and white? Why can't you acknowledge that we cannot claim the unequivocal moral and ethical high ground here?

He was certainly fighting terrorists, who came into Iraq, into those no-go zones to maim and kill. These people existed long before Iraq and always have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Best take more care when you speak ill of the dead - especially those that served our country and did away with pure evil. But if you feel IS is of a purer heart, feel free to invite some members over to dinner. I'll come sweep up later..."

I'm not the one you've been arguing with. But your basic brain is baffling to me. One can take issue with someone who writes a book about how 'fun' it is to kill people and still recognize the evil of ISIS.

You're very stupid. You should go away.

I read his book. Please quote the lines that say he had fun killing people. Word for word.

They can't. They haven't read the book. Or seen the movie. They only repeat what they've read in articles, often written by journalists who also haven't read the book or seen the movie (i.e. New Republic writer).

Fact is the "fun" comment was about how much he loved being a Navy SEAL.

[Anonymous]

And before that, Hussein was maiming and killing his own people. Which is apparently NOT ok in Darfur or Nigeria (#bringbackourgirls indeed...) but peachy keen when it's done in Iraq

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if someone could quote me the exact Chris Kyle line where he says he loves killing people.

What I read was this:

“The enemy are savages and despicably evil,” and his “only regret is that I didn’t kill more.”

He is correct about this. I think we can all agree terrorists are savages and despicably evil. Certainly IS fits that bill.

Except he wasn't fighting IS. And there was no terrorist threat from Iraq prior to our invasion and botched occupation. So he was mindlessly killing people whom his beloved military essentially created. The Iraq War a disgusting criminal misuse of power and I can't for the life of le understand why people who volunteer to serve go out of their way to justify it. Soldiers died for absolutely no good reason, and the war achieved nothing. We killed Saddam Hussein. Big whoop. We also created a terrorist breeding ground - which is what created this need to protect our troops. Why can't people see that this is nit black and white? Why can't you acknowledge that we cannot claim the unequivocal moral and ethical high ground here?

He was certainly fighting terrorists, who came into Iraq, into those no-go zones to maim and kill. These people existed long before Iraq and always have.

I don't deny that. But who created the conditions that allowed them to pour into and flourish in Iraq? We did. Try to deny it and I will accuse you of rewriting history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm liberal and I do not hate the men and women in the military at all. I'm related to a Colonel in the US Army who is a highly intelligent and dedicated man, and I have tremendous respect for him.

But if the way Kyle is being portrayed is at all true, then I do not care for who that man was.

The 'if' is the problem. Any chance you plan to read his book, study up on the man, and make your own decision?

I'll give you that it's problematic. And I'll answer you honestly that I will probably never read the work of a man who told numerous stories that are likely not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if someone could quote me the exact Chris Kyle line where he says he loves killing people.

What I read was this:

“The enemy are savages and despicably evil,” and his “only regret is that I didn’t kill more.”

He is correct about this. I think we can all agree terrorists are savages and despicably evil. Certainly IS fits that bill.

Except he wasn't fighting IS. And there was no terrorist threat from Iraq prior to our invasion and botched occupation. So he was mindlessly killing people whom his beloved military essentially created. The Iraq War a disgusting criminal misuse of power and I can't for the life of le understand why people who volunteer to serve go out of their way to justify it. Soldiers died for absolutely no good reason, and the war achieved nothing. We killed Saddam Hussein. Big whoop. We also created a terrorist breeding ground - which is what created this need to protect our troops. Why can't people see that this is nit black and white? Why can't you acknowledge that we cannot claim the unequivocal moral and ethical high ground here?

He was certainly fighting terrorists, who came into Iraq, into those no-go zones to maim and kill. These people existed long before Iraq and always have.

I don't deny that. But who created the conditions that allowed them to pour into and flourish in Iraq? We did. Try to deny it and I will accuse you of rewriting history.

And what of now? Have you seen the IS map lately? They've quadrupled in size. Who created THAT void?

So tell me, why is Dafur and Nigeria an issue for liberals, but Hussein's reign of hell in Iraq, never mind his blatant breaking of UN treaties, invading another nation, etc. A-OK?

[Anonymous]

And now it's Bush's fault.

Fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm liberal and I do not hate the men and women in the military at all. I'm related to a Colonel in the US Army who is a highly intelligent and dedicated man, and I have tremendous respect for him.

But if the way Kyle is being portrayed is at all true, then I do not care for who that man was.

The 'if' is the problem. Any chance you plan to read his book, study up on the man, and make your own decision?

+1 Just another idiot liberal who gets all their info from social media and the liberal news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm liberal and I do not hate the men and women in the military at all. I'm related to a Colonel in the US Army who is a highly intelligent and dedicated man, and I have tremendous respect for him.

But if the way Kyle is being portrayed is at all true, then I do not care for who that man was.

The 'if' is the problem. Any chance you plan to read his book, study up on the man, and make your own decision?

I'll give you that it's problematic. And I'll answer you honestly that I will probably never read the work of a man who told numerous stories that are likely not true.

I love words like "if" and "likely". Essentially, you won't read the book because you might learn something that goes against your liberal viewpoint. You might find out *gasp* terrorists are BAD PEOPLE!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now if someone could quote me the exact Chris Kyle line where he says he loves killing people.

What I read was this:

“The enemy are savages and despicably evil,” and his “only regret is that I didn’t kill more.”

He is correct about this. I think we can all agree terrorists are savages and despicably evil. Certainly IS fits that bill.

Except he wasn't fighting IS. And there was no terrorist threat from Iraq prior to our invasion and botched occupation. So he was mindlessly killing people whom his beloved military essentially created. The Iraq War a disgusting criminal misuse of power and I can't for the life of le understand why people who volunteer to serve go out of their way to justify it. Soldiers died for absolutely no good reason, and the war achieved nothing. We killed Saddam Hussein. Big whoop. We also created a terrorist breeding ground - which is what created this need to protect our troops. Why can't people see that this is nit black and white? Why can't you acknowledge that we cannot claim the unequivocal moral and ethical high ground here?

He was certainly fighting terrorists, who came into Iraq, into those no-go zones to maim and kill. These people existed long before Iraq and always have.

I don't deny that. But who created the conditions that allowed them to pour into and flourish in Iraq? We did. Try to deny it and I will accuse you of rewriting history.

And again, why were Iraqi citizens being murdered by Hussein ok for him to kill, but others being murdered by IS are not? What's the difference? I would rather no dictator kill his own people. But hell, that's just me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm liberal and I do not hate the men and women in the military at all. I'm related to a Colonel in the US Army who is a highly intelligent and dedicated man, and I have tremendous respect for him.

But if the way Kyle is being portrayed is at all true, then I do not care for who that man was.

The 'if' is the problem. Any chance you plan to read his book, study up on the man, and make your own decision?

I'll give you that it's problematic. And I'll answer you honestly that I will probably never read the work of a man who told numerous stories that are likely not true.

I love words like "if" and "likely". Essentially, you won't read the book because you might learn something that goes against your liberal viewpoint. You might find out *gasp* terrorists are BAD PEOPLE!

Kyle's estate is on its second appeal of a $1.8M judgment against it for libel and slander. Multiple judges have ruled him a liar; there is nothing "likely" about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And before that, Hussein was maiming and killing his own people. Which is apparently NOT ok in Darfur or Nigeria (#bringbackourgirls indeed...) but peachy keen when it's done in Iraq

Back to that old argument, are we? In your view, are there any limits to when and where we should wage all out war? Should we just invade and occupy the entire non-Western world in the name of "liberation" and "spreading democracy?". Wow, we really did a god job of liberating Iraq from terror, didn't we?

[Anonymous]

The interesting thing is, is now that Obama wants to fight ISIS he really has nowhere safe to put our troops if he wants ground forces in. We had Iraq before he destroyed it and let IS take over.

Location, location, location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And before that, Hussein was maiming and killing his own people. Which is apparently NOT ok in Darfur or Nigeria (#bringbackourgirls indeed...) but peachy keen when it's done in Iraq

Back to that old argument, are we? In your view, are there any limits to when and where we should wage all out war? Should we just invade and occupy the entire non-Western world in the name of "liberation" and "spreading democracy?". Wow, we really did a god job of liberating Iraq from terror, didn't we?

Location, location, location. You can't fight terrorist from thousands of miles away.

We actually did a damn good job of liberating Iraq. Then came Obama...