How to protect or teach your son's to avoid Crazy Girls like Jackie

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

+1. Big time.

These seem like sensible points, but please explain how they will help a young man to recognize the danger signs of a "crazy girl." Is your premise that boys so raised will develop sufficient empathy for, and relationships with, girls that he'll have "crazy girl radar"?

Otherwise, I think you're answering a different question than posed by OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

THIS!!!! X10000000

You have missed the point completely.

How do you equip your son to avoid a certified crazy person like jackie. Doing all of the above things won't help you weed out a crazy women. They will help you act in a respectable manor.

No, YOU missed the point. You teach your boys how to give and receive respect. Men who know what healthy, balanced relationships look like aren't turned on by young women who are damaged.

This.

[Anonymous]

The United States Justice Department states, false accusations of rape are estimated to occur at the rate of two percent -- similar to the rate of false accusations for other violent crimes. (Every year in the United States, 1,270,000 women experience rape.) Are you worried about how to protect your son from other violent criminal accusations? Why is your son more likely to be accused of rape....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a teachable moment for sons, but it goes far beyond "avoid crazy chicks." Avoid having sex with any drunk chick. Avoid having sex with other people watching. Avoid having sex with someone you just met.

It really is on the boys to not rape.

This goes both ways. Our young men and women should all be taught not to have sex as “default.” Our society has become way too promiscuous. Casual sex is dangerous in so many ways. Both men and women should treat others with respect and avoid those who want to rush into sex.
Yes, I am older than many of you.

[Anonymous]

Frankly, we should ALL be MUCH MORE worried about teaching our daughters to avoid the rapists amongst their fellow students as there are more rapists on college campuses than there are "crazy" girls.

Give me a F*ing break, OP. You are an a$$.

Signed,
Mom of a son and a daughter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

How do you know that none of the men in the accused frat were raised this way?

How do you know that none of them live their lives in this fashion?

You don't, but you're going to generalize about them. While making sure you teach "compassion, communication, consideration," no doubt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The United States Justice Department states, false accusations of rape are estimated to occur at the rate of two percent -- similar to the rate of false accusations for other violent crimes. (Every year in the United States, 1,270,000 women experience rape.) Are you worried about how to protect your son from other violent criminal accusations? Why is your son more likely to be accused of rape....

This is why I can't with the assholes who go on and on about this. It's so ridiculous and really damages the consideration of rape cases, very few of which are falsely reported.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually for the OP, I was curious about the challenges men faced after the Duke Lacrosse case. My SO had also mentioned how a guy he knew down the hall freshman year, his ex gf had showed up wearing lingerie, had sex with him, and then later accused him of rape. The budding star athlete was expelled. I found this book which proved very useful for guys in general:

http://www.amazon.com/Avoid-Getting-Screwed-When-Volume/dp/0615327478

It points out signs that a woman is crazy.

It also points out things like to avoid false rape accusations, take the girl out for a meal to somewhere where there are video cameras so there is video evidence.

So politically correct or not, this book is a good one to gift a young man about to go to college.

Thanks for this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

+1. Big time.

These seem like sensible points, but please explain how they will help a young man to recognize the danger signs of a "crazy girl." Is your premise that boys so raised will develop sufficient empathy for, and relationships with, girls that he'll have "crazy girl radar"?

Otherwise, I think you're answering a different question than posed by OP.

What does crazy girl mean? A little over 1 million women and 370,000 men are stalked annually in the United States. That means more women deal with crazy men. Then men deal with crazy woman.

[Anonymous]

I am trying to teach my tween age kids (both sons and daughters) that people can twist things and lie. It's awful but people do it to your face, and even more so on social media. Don't let anyone get you in a situation where they could blame something on you later. Don't piss people off that they would want to hurt you. It's hard to open their eyes without sounding paranoid and crazy myself, and I don't want to scare them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, we should ALL be MUCH MORE worried about teaching our daughters to avoid the rapists amongst their fellow students as there are more rapists on college campuses than there are "crazy" girls.

Give me a F*ing break, OP. You are an a$$.

Signed,
Mom of a son and a daughter

We should be worried about both. Both Rape and False Accusations are equally bad and should not be tolerated and there are obviously incidents of both going on. Its not one or the other. Calling people names does not help you make your point.

[Anonymous]

Avoid fraternities. Nurture his self esteem and confidence so he doesn't feel like he needs to buy his way into a social setting setting when he goes to college.

Be an individual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, we should ALL be MUCH MORE worried about teaching our daughters to avoid the rapists amongst their fellow students as there are more rapists on college campuses than there are "crazy" girls.

Give me a F*ing break, OP. You are an a$$.

Signed,
Mom of a son and a daughter

We should be worried about both. Both Rape and False Accusations are equally bad and should not be tolerated and there are obviously incidents of both going on. Its not one or the other. Calling people names does not help you make your point.

Ms. Classy responded to other threads similarly. Do not engage (unless you want to ask where she got her stats on number of rapists vs. crazy girls).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

+1. Big time.

These seem like sensible points, but please explain how they will help a young man to recognize the danger signs of a "crazy girl." Is your premise that boys so raised will develop sufficient empathy for, and relationships with, girls that he'll have "crazy girl radar"?

Otherwise, I think you're answering a different question than posed by OP.

What does crazy girl mean? A little over 1 million women and 370,000 men are stalked annually in the United States. That means more women deal with crazy men. Then men deal with crazy woman.

Exactly. I think the crazies get angry though when they realize that YES rape will be prosecuted and NO you are not entitled to sex with any female that turns you on. Hence the bluster about false rape accusations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a teachable moment for sons, but it goes far beyond "avoid crazy chicks." Avoid having sex with any drunk chick. Avoid having sex with other people watching. Avoid having sex with someone you just met.

It really is on the boys to not rape.

None of those are rape

Sex with a drunk chick is absolutely rape. And sex with people watching can easily be called gang rape.

The last one is just common sense.

Sex with people watching is called public exhibition. That is pushing the definition.

Sex with a drunk chick is not absolutely rape. Its an grey area. When I was a junior in college after a night of drinking I invited another drunk boy up to my room and had tons of fun. I was not raped, I did not raped him. Still a fond memory today. This would mean many boys raped me in school, which I reject. .When people initially thought of raping drunk chicks it was at a club where a person who purposely ply a woman with drink to render her black out or drug her. But this definition has been brought to many grey situations where two young people with liquored up courage have sex. Its ridiculous

The last one may be common sense but people still do it. In fact sex positive feminists encourage it. So moot point.

All these three situations are still NOT rape.

I didn't actually witness this but I heard about it: Wet tee shirt contest with many buzzed/drunk girls participating. The "winner" stripped off her shirt hopped down into the crowd and let any guy who wanted to touch her breasts. She laughed as she walked through the crowd being groped all over by horny guys.

The next day she felt humiliated. What would you call this?

If she was of age to drink - her mistake. If she was underage, a crime by her and her servers. The touching people? Close call. Way too weird an event. Look yes. Touch? Wellllll, no.

Yep. The touching part was a spur of the moment, unexpected twist to it all. No one expected her to hop off the stage and offer herself up like that. I'm sure it wasn't a premeditated thing on her part, either. And the guys just reacted to BOOBS I guess. I wasn't there, I just heard about it - I have no idea who it was.

She wasn't under age (I think she was due to graduate soon). It was a VERY weird incident.