How to protect or teach your son's to avoid Crazy Girls like Jackie

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For someone behind on the latest gossip: Who the f is Jackie?

Ha. You will need to google Jackie UVA my friend. You have missed a real sh*t storm.

Why do people keep using the term "sh** storm"? I think that the university's response since the article has been calm, cool, and collected.

I was referring to people's reactions to it. The protests outside of the fraternity, the finger pointing, the Jackie defenders and the reaction to it all being a complete lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a teachable moment for sons, but it goes far beyond "avoid crazy chicks." Avoid having sex with any drunk chick. Avoid having sex with other people watching. Avoid having sex with someone you just met.

It really is on the boys to not rape.

Exactly. It's really not hard to achieve. If you are worried about your son being accused of rape.... um, maybe that says more about your son than it does about some imaginary predatory female thats plotting and planning to ruin his life? Ridiculous...

No, it means I am worried about my son getting harmed by external forces outside his control (false accusations), the same way I am worried about my daughter getting harmed by external forces outside her control (rape)

Like it or not bad things happen outside people's control and what we're doing here is trying to figure out how to avoid these situations. (e..g. don't walk in dark corners at night if you don't want to get mugged. Try to be aware of your situations or bad areas. See signs when a predator is grooming you for domestic violence. Avoid being in situations where you get caught up in false accusations). Both things may happen. Its not one or another.

I love people that try to troll by creating hysteria about false rape accusations, as if they happen all the time, when statistics show they happen no more frequently than other false accusations. So if you're worried about your son being falsely accused of rape, why dont you worry about your son being falsely accused of mugging someone? Or of robbing a house? Or of committing whatever other violent crime? Let's speculate on how we can prevent that. Any suggestions?

Statistics in this area are worth next to nothing.

If a male student is falsely accused, but is sanctioned by a college in a quasi-confidential proceeding, he may accept the sanction. You won't acknowledge that as a false accusation. By contesting the matter in court, he runs a greater risk that his identity and sexual history will be made public, unless his lawyer can file the case under seal or is granted permission to redact his identity.

Your other analogies are absurd on their face. The term "he said, she said" isn't part of the lexecon when it comes to burglaries. "Recovered property" is.

Ok... how about the analogy of being accused of beating the shit out of someone when there's no video footage? No recovered property to go off of or forensic evidence, just victim testimony. Why aren't you worried about that?

And LOL at you trying to throw out statistics and replace them with your absurd "this might have happened in a news story OMG IT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME WHAT DO WE DO?" paranoia. It's ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a teachable moment for sons, but it goes far beyond "avoid crazy chicks." Avoid having sex with any drunk chick. Avoid having sex with other people watching. Avoid having sex with someone you just met.

It really is on the boys to not rape.

Exactly. It's really not hard to achieve. If you are worried about your son being accused of rape.... um, maybe that says more about your son than it does about some imaginary predatory female thats plotting and planning to ruin his life? Ridiculous...

No, it means I am worried about my son getting harmed by external forces outside his control (false accusations), the same way I am worried about my daughter getting harmed by external forces outside her control (rape)

Like it or not bad things happen outside people's control and what we're doing here is trying to figure out how to avoid these situations. (e..g. don't walk in dark corners at night if you don't want to get mugged. Try to be aware of your situations or bad areas. See signs when a predator is grooming you for domestic violence. Avoid being in situations where you get caught up in false accusations). Both things may happen. Its not one or another.

I love people that try to troll by creating hysteria about false rape accusations, as if they happen all the time, when statistics show they happen no more frequently than other false accusations. So if you're worried about your son being falsely accused of rape, why dont you worry about your son being falsely accused of mugging someone? Or of robbing a house? Or of committing whatever other violent crime? Let's speculate on how we can prevent that. Any suggestions?

The reason why we're not speculating on that because this discussion is derived from discussing the UVA rape case. In fact, the willingness of many to condemn frat members in this case without considering the facts show that it is indeed a problem.

College men are also less likely to be accused of muggings or violent crime. However it is a free for all when it comes to false accusations of rape. Just as one rape is one rape too many, one false accusation is one too many.

Just because I disagree with you its not called trolling. I'm not fueling any hysteria, in fact the hysteria I have seen so far is over this "rape epidemic".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watch out for women who are bi polar and act very different when drunk and sober

Yes, and men too. The charmer - hitting type. Comes in box sexes and all sexual preferences. Avoid them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Live your life with integrity, tell the truth and treat women with respect and take responsibility for your own actions. Don't lie.

You can't prevent people from making false claims about you. But if you have been honest and have nothing to hide - that will come through.

+1

[Anonymous]

Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a teachable moment for sons, but it goes far beyond "avoid crazy chicks." Avoid having sex with any drunk chick. Avoid having sex with other people watching. Avoid having sex with someone you just met.

It really is on the boys to not rape.

Exactly. It's really not hard to achieve. If you are worried about your son being accused of rape.... um, maybe that says more about your son than it does about some imaginary predatory female thats plotting and planning to ruin his life? Ridiculous...

No, it means I am worried about my son getting harmed by external forces outside his control (false accusations), the same way I am worried about my daughter getting harmed by external forces outside her control (rape)

Like it or not bad things happen outside people's control and what we're doing here is trying to figure out how to avoid these situations. (e..g. don't walk in dark corners at night if you don't want to get mugged. Try to be aware of your situations or bad areas. See signs when a predator is grooming you for domestic violence. Avoid being in situations where you get caught up in false accusations). Both things may happen. Its not one or another.

I love people that try to troll by creating hysteria about false rape accusations, as if they happen all the time, when statistics show they happen no more frequently than other false accusations. So if you're worried about your son being falsely accused of rape, why dont you worry about your son being falsely accused of mugging someone? Or of robbing a house? Or of committing whatever other violent crime? Let's speculate on how we can prevent that. Any suggestions?

The reason why we're not speculating on that because this discussion is derived from discussing the UVA rape case. In fact, the willingness of many to condemn frat members in this case without considering the facts show that it is indeed a problem.

College men are also less likely to be accused of muggings or violent crime. However it is a free for all when it comes to false accusations of rape. Just as one rape is one rape too many, one false accusation is one too many.

Just because I disagree with you its not called trolling. I'm not fueling any hysteria, in fact the hysteria I have seen so far is over this "rape epidemic".

It is actually NOT a free for all when it comes to rape, contrary to what some rape apologists may want people to believe. In fact, rape is SEVERELY underreported because most people dont want to go through the accusations of false rape that you guys are doing right now.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of crazy girls out there. As in, bat-shit, certifiable, cook-your-kids'-pet-rabbit, CRAZY.

The odd part about it is how adept girls have become at hiding their crazy side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

THIS!!!! X10000000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of crazy girls out there. As in, bat-shit, certifiable, cook-your-kids'-pet-rabbit, CRAZY.

The odd part about it is how adept girls have become at hiding their crazy side.

There are a lot of crazy boys out there. As in, bat-shit, certifiable, lock-you-in-a-cabin-in-the-woods-and-kill-your-mother-and-you-have-to-kill-him-with-a-boat-oar-in-self-defense, CRAZY.

The odd part about it is how adept boys have become at hiding their crazy side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a teachable moment for sons, but it goes far beyond "avoid crazy chicks." Avoid having sex with any drunk chick. Avoid having sex with other people watching. Avoid having sex with someone you just met.

It really is on the boys to not rape.

None of those are rape

Sex with a drunk chick is absolutely rape. And sex with people watching can easily be called gang rape.

The last one is just common sense.

Ouch. Drunk sex is rape? They need to teach that definition now. And ban alcohol from campuses. A good percentage of all sex - in life - includes one or more parties being drunk or being able to test drunk. As for being watched, well, that is so far out that no comment.

Consenting adults. That is the rule. Get it on video.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

THIS!!!! X10000000

What about this.

Make sure your daughters have respect for men. Don't keep showing cartoons that show girls and women as the smart ones and men as idiotic, dumb and evil. (ranging from family sitcoms to popular cartoons). Encourage both genders to be empowered. Make sure that boys are treated well in school and their energy feedback and contributions valued as much as the girl power song now adays and not just drugged up on ritalin. Make sure that boys are loved and have good relationships with their mothers. (did you know sex selection in the US is heavily geared towards females). Make sure they see the women in their lives treating men with respect instead of berating and nagging them. Teach patience, compassion, communication and consideration for both genders.

[Anonymous]

^ Exactly. Consenting adults. Someone who is drunk cannot legally consent to anything, which is why if you showed up to a notary drunk they wouldnt accept your signature.

I would think if you want to videotape all encounters to prove it was consensual you would have the foresight to realize if one party is totally wasted it doesnt count as consent and therefore IS NOT CONSENSUAL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

THIS!!!! X10000000

What about this.

Make sure your daughters have respect for men. Don't keep showing cartoons that show girls and women as the smart ones and men as idiotic, dumb and evil. (ranging from family sitcoms to popular cartoons). Encourage both genders to be empowered. Make sure that boys are treated well in school and their energy feedback and contributions valued as much as the girl power song now adays and not just drugged up on ritalin. Make sure that boys are loved and have good relationships with their mothers. (did you know sex selection in the US is heavily geared towards females). Make sure they see the women in their lives treating men with respect instead of berating and nagging them. Teach patience, compassion, communication and consideration for both genders.

OP asked for tips for boys.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Make sure that your sons have respect for women. Don't let them play video games that glorify violence against women. Make sure they treat women and girls as equals. Show them you value women's feedback, contributions and talents as much as those of men. Make sure they experience loving, nurturing relationships with men. Make sure they see the men in their lives treating women and girls as equals/ Don't devalue "girl" things--colors, names, games, activities--as being less desirable or important as "boy" things. Make sure you teach patience, compassion, communication, consideration. Don't inadvertently glorify hypermasculine behavior. Don't mistake aggression for leadership. If you ever say "boys will be boys," you're doing it wrong.

THIS!!!! X10000000

You have missed the point completely.

How do you equip your son to avoid a certified crazy person like jackie. Doing all of the above things won't help you weed out a crazy women. They will help you act in a respectable manor.