Family struggling with Catholicism

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Anonymous wrote:too confusing
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Anonymous wrote:My 10 year old said she doesn't want to be ruled by any religion or any god. (She attended Catholic school through 3rd grade.)

"Why should I bother? Why can't I just live my life and be happy? Why do I need rules to show me how to live? And why are there so many religions? and different gods to worship? It's just to confusing and ridiculous."

normal 10 year old. Christianity is a relationship not a religion.

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic here - Baptized, Communion, Confirmed and married by the Catholic Church.

I am pro choice, believe that gays should have the right to marriage and believe in birth control. My feeling is this, those are someone else's choices that they have to make for themselves. They are not mine to make for them. I personally would not have an abortion and I am gay and if I was I personally would not get married. Because I would not personally make those decisions for myself, I still feel comfortable going to a Catholic Church. I also let the church for a while. I came back when I needed God the most. I think believing in God is more than the religion you chose to belong to. Go to church and know that your relationship with God is between you and your God.

Thiis is a very modern view of belief. If too many people held that view, churches would go out of business. Why bother going to church if you set you own beliefs?

I go to church to hear the readings and for spirituality. I still give my $ to the church. I think if you are Catholic then YOU should not have an abortion and if you are a gay Catholic then know that the church will not be marring you.

I don't believe that any religion should push their beliefs on anyone.

If they want to kick me out, I'll take my money elsewhere.

Well, what about birth control? And masturbation? And premarital sex? And divorce? And remarrying and living in a blended family? And being in a gay marriage? All mortal sins, some ongoing.

I just can't be a good Catholic under these terms, so I am no longer any Catholic at all.

And what about lying stealing, cheating on taxes, adultery or being prideful, vain, angry or lustful?

It is a church of sinners, not of saints.

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all churches are filled with sinners. The only saints are in Heaven.

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

Then you can be a "good Catholic" and have an abortion?

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

Then you can be a "good Catholic" and have an abortion?

Doubt that the "Nothing" poster is a Catholic. I'm not Catholic and the answer is obvious, even to me: there would be consequences in the after life, even if nobody knows about it today.

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

Then you can be a "good Catholic" and have an abortion?

Doubt that the "Nothing" poster is a Catholic. I'm not Catholic and the answer is obvious, even to me: there would be consequences in the after life, even if nobody knows about it today.

sounds ominous. What would the consequences be?

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

Then you can be a "good Catholic" and have an abortion?

Yes. If you knew anything at all about Jesus, how could you doubt this?

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

Then you can be a "good Catholic" and have an abortion?

Yes. If you knew anything at all about Jesus, how could you doubt this?

Jesus says abortion is OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are extremely common feelings. I don't think you should feel hypocritical. According to this poll, 82 percent of American Catholics don't oppose contraceptives. Pew Research Forum data (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/19/majority-of-u-s-catholics-opinions-run-counter-to-church-on-contraception-homosexuality) finds that most American Catholics' opinions on contraception and homosexuality differ from that of the church.

There would be very few churches in operation if those people didn't go to church. You are in good company.

This is sort of the very definition of hypocrisy though isn't it? Why shouldn't OP feel like a hypocrite, her Pope keeps millions of women throughout the world in a position of not being able to control their own destinies, yet she - and apparently you, and 82% of "American catholics" find that to be BS. But hey, we'll still go and give money to this place.

Hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:These are extremely common feelings. I don't think you should feel hypocritical. According to this poll, 82 percent of American Catholics don't oppose contraceptives. Pew Research Forum data (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/19/majority-of-u-s-catholics-opinions-run-counter-to-church-on-contraception-homosexuality) finds that most American Catholics' opinions on contraception and homosexuality differ from that of the church.

There would be very few churches in operation if those people didn't go to church. You are in good company.

This is sort of the very definition of hypocrisy though isn't it? Why shouldn't OP feel like a hypocrite, her Pope keeps millions of women throughout the world in a position of not being able to control their own destinies, yet she - and apparently you, and 82% of "American catholics" find that to be BS. But hey, we'll still go and give money to this place.

Hypocrites.

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To 8:53 - Jesus *forgives* everyone for everything...especially Catholics.

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Anonymous wrote:To 8:53 - Jesus *forgives* everyone for everything...especially Catholics.

But only if a person is genuinely sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:And a good catholic can be pro choice...as long as they don't personally have an abortion.

what happens if they have an abortion, but don't confess it and raise their children Catholic?

Nothing.

Then you can be a "good Catholic" and have an abortion?

Doubt that the "Nothing" poster is a Catholic. I'm not Catholic and the answer is obvious, even to me: there would be consequences in the after life, even if nobody knows about it today.

sounds ominous. What would the consequences be?

burning in hell or hanging around in purgatory for God knows (literally) how long

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Anonymous wrote:These are extremely common feelings. I don't think you should feel hypocritical. According to this poll, 82 percent of American Catholics don't oppose contraceptives. Pew Research Forum data (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/19/majority-of-u-s-catholics-opinions-run-counter-to-church-on-contraception-homosexuality) finds that most American Catholics' opinions on contraception and homosexuality differ from that of the church.

There would be very few churches in operation if those people didn't go to church. You are in good company.

This is sort of the very definition of hypocrisy though isn't it? Why shouldn't OP feel like a hypocrite, her Pope keeps millions of women throughout the world in a position of not being able to control their own destinies, yet she - and apparently you, and 82% of "American catholics" find that to be BS. But hey, we'll still go and give money to this place.

Hypocrites.

These are reasons why I left the church.

I don't hate gays. I recently just lost a very good gay pal to an illness, in fact. former Catholic, too - who will go to hell for being true to himself, right?

I've taken a friend to have abortions. So both of us will go to hell, I imagine.

I was tired of donating money to an institution that 1) preaches hate and 2) protects pedophiles.

But I'm the one going to hell.