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Anonymous wrote:OP, if you feel like you have to ask if something is racist, then chances are good that it's racist.

OP here, I didn't think the joke was racist (otherwise why would I say it?!). But someone called me racist for the joke. Maybe they got it after I explained it's a real phenomenon. Of course they could have also just thought the same of me. I won't be making that joke again. Unless of course someone does determine one of the local places is in fact cooking up the cats....

I think it all depends on your definition of "racism." Some people think racism requires a suggestion that one race is superior/inferior to another. Other people think any stereotyping of behavior based on race is racism. Still others believe that only people whose race has maintained long-term political power (i.e., whites in the US) can be racist, and so no one else can be racist no matter what they do. Lots of people kind of stir together all these different definitions, or change their definition depending on the situation. So I guess the answer is "maybe ... maybe not."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if you feel like you have to ask if something is racist, then chances are good that it's racist.

OP here, I didn't think the joke was racist (otherwise why would I say it?!). But someone called me racist for the joke. Maybe they got it after I explained it's a real phenomenon. Of course they could have also just thought the same of me. I won't be making that joke again. Unless of course someone does determine one of the local places is in fact cooking up the cats....

I think it all depends on your definition of "racism." Some people think racism requires a suggestion that one race is superior/inferior to another. Other people think any stereotyping of behavior based on race is racism. Still others believe that only people whose race has maintained long-term political power (i.e., whites in the US) can be racist, and so no one else can be racist no matter what they do. Lots of people kind of stir together all these different definitions, or change their definition depending on the situation. So I guess the answer is "maybe ... maybe not."

And many other people love to see "racism" lurking behind every tree. It's sort of a game with them, I'm starting to think. Or a shake-down.

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Anonymous wrote:I ate dogs in Thailand, tasted like chicken. Not too bad really.

You are a shame to the human race.

Why? Your viewpoint is not the rest of humanity's viewpoint. How ignorant of you.

yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. I ate guinea pigs in Peru. Who cares? meat is meat. Why is a dog more important than a fish or a cow? Either be vegan or shut up.

You can't compare a dog or cat to a cow!!! I am vegetarian and make the difference. Eating guinea pigs, rabbits or squirrels is different from eating a DOG!
Leave the dogs alone!

this has to be a parody, right? why is a cow or a pig any different from a dog? brain size? no. intelligence? no. domesticated? all are. makes no sense at all. in some cultures dogs are lower than rats.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I've lived in several parts of Asia since I was born. I made the joke and was called a racist. It's a well known fact where I lived that people ate dogs and cats. Totally off-limits topic in the US, clearly. I didn't specify a nationality because several nationalities (Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc) eat strays.

Sad, sad, I had no idea that people in Asia eat dogs. I knew about horses but not dogs. It's awful. To answer your question: I have no idea if it's racist????

Of course they had to eat cats and dogs. And anything else that moved. Do you have any idea how many people died under Mao during the Cultural Revolution? From starvation? More than Stalin killed and more than Hitler killed. Good Lord. Take a history lesson. When I lived in China in 1979 there was no living or most beast including pests because everything had been eaten or killed off by pesticides.

Sure, are all Asians starving right now? They are still eating those poor cats and dogs. It seems like it's a delicatessen.

Still starving in N. Korea, now, read "The Orphan Master's Son". It's fiction, but the author was one of the few that got in to N. Korea.

Um, North Koreans are digging up Chinese graves and eating PEOPLE. Forget about cats and dogs, think about how starving you'd have to be to do that. And don't say it's only in Asia. Donner party, anyone? Those people were WHITE. I guess if some bodies go missing, we should make sure the white people aren't eating them up like Jeffrey Dalhmer. He's white, so there's some truth to white people being cannibals, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I ate dogs in Thailand, tasted like chicken. Not too bad really.

You are a shame to the human race.

Why? Your viewpoint is not the rest of humanity's viewpoint. How ignorant of you.

yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. I ate guinea pigs in Peru. Who cares? meat is meat. Why is a dog more important than a fish or a cow? Either be vegan or shut up.

You can't compare a dog or cat to a cow!!! I am vegetarian and make the difference. Eating guinea pigs, rabbits or squirrels is different from eating a DOG!
Leave the dogs alone!

this has to be a parody, right? why is a cow or a pig any different from a dog? brain size? no. intelligence? no. domesticated? all are. makes no sense at all. in some cultures dogs are lower than rats.

Well, one was bred for 100,000 years to be a companion animal to humans and the others have been bred for food. I think there is a difference.

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Did you know that reindeer is a kosher animal?

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Anonymous wrote:I ate dogs in Thailand, tasted like chicken. Not too bad really.

You are a shame to the human race.

Why? Your viewpoint is not the rest of humanity's viewpoint. How ignorant of you.

yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. I ate guinea pigs in Peru. Who cares? meat is meat. Why is a dog more important than a fish or a cow? Either be vegan or shut up.

You can't compare a dog or cat to a cow!!! I am vegetarian and make the difference. Eating guinea pigs, rabbits or squirrels is different from eating a DOG!
Leave the dogs alone!

this has to be a parody, right? why is a cow or a pig any different from a dog? brain size? no. intelligence? no. domesticated? all are. makes no sense at all. in some cultures dogs are lower than rats.

Well, one was bred for 100,000 years to be a companion animal to humans and the others have been bred for food. I think there is a difference.

But wait -- what if they were bred in China to be food dogs for thousands of years?
Then we're all good?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I ate dogs in Thailand, tasted like chicken. Not too bad really.

You are a shame to the human race.

Why? Your viewpoint is not the rest of humanity's viewpoint. How ignorant of you.

yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. I ate guinea pigs in Peru. Who cares? meat is meat. Why is a dog more important than a fish or a cow? Either be vegan or shut up.

You can't compare a dog or cat to a cow!!! I am vegetarian and make the difference. Eating guinea pigs, rabbits or squirrels is different from eating a DOG!
Leave the dogs alone!

this has to be a parody, right? why is a cow or a pig any different from a dog? brain size? no. intelligence? no. domesticated? all are. makes no sense at all. in some cultures dogs are lower than rats.

Well, one was bred for 100,000 years to be a companion animal to humans and the others have been bred for food. I think there is a difference.

I think that's a dangerous line of argument. It suggests that the ethics depend upon the animal's purpose as decided by humans. If animals can choose to make one animal food, then they can just as easily choose to do it with another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I've lived in several parts of Asia since I was born. I made the joke and was called a racist. It's a well known fact where I lived that people ate dogs and cats. Totally off-limits topic in the US, clearly. I didn't specify a nationality because several nationalities (Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc) eat strays.

Sad, sad, I had no idea that people in Asia eat dogs. I knew about horses but not dogs. It's awful. To answer your question: I have no idea if it's racist????

Of course they had to eat cats and dogs. And anything else that moved. Do you have any idea how many people died under Mao during the Cultural Revolution? From starvation? More than Stalin killed and more than Hitler killed. Good Lord. Take a history lesson. When I lived in China in 1979 there was no living or most beast including pests because everything had been eaten or killed off by pesticides.

Sure, are all Asians starving right now? They are still eating those poor cats and dogs. It seems like it's a delicatessen.

Still starving in N. Korea, now, read "The Orphan Master's Son". It's fiction, but the author was one of the few that got in to N. Korea.

Um, North Koreans are digging up Chinese graves and eating PEOPLE. Forget about cats and dogs, think about how starving you'd have to be to do that. And don't say it's only in Asia. Donner party, anyone? Those people were WHITE. I guess if some bodies go missing, we should make sure the white people aren't eating them up like Jeffrey Dalhmer. He's white, so there's some truth to white people being cannibals, right?

Please don't start a post with Um. It's makes you sound like a stupid young woman who can't speak without saying "like". Just use a declarative sentence. Yes, the N. Koreans are eating babies and whatever else they can. Google "Cannibalism North Korea" but don't look at the photos unless you think you can handle it. In Orphan Master's Son, those in the concentration camps survive by eating children and drinking the sperm of the one camp ox after they masturbate it at night when the guards are not looking. They eat crickets, beetles and anything else they can find because they are starving to death.

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The S. Koreans still routinely eat dog (a friend of mine did while living there) but the newer generation doesn't. Eating dog is supposedly the equivalent of oysters or viagra. He said it didn't work for him.

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Anonymous wrote:I ate dogs in Thailand, tasted like chicken. Not too bad really.

You are a shame to the human race.

Why? Your viewpoint is not the rest of humanity's viewpoint. How ignorant of you.

yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. I ate guinea pigs in Peru. Who cares? meat is meat. Why is a dog more important than a fish or a cow? Either be vegan or shut up.

You can't compare a dog or cat to a cow!!! I am vegetarian and make the difference. Eating guinea pigs, rabbits or squirrels is different from eating a DOG!
Leave the dogs alone!

this has to be a parody, right? why is a cow or a pig any different from a dog? brain size? no. intelligence? no. domesticated? all are. makes no sense at all. in some cultures dogs are lower than rats.

Well, one was bred for 100,000 years to be a companion animal to humans and the others have been bred for food. I think there is a difference.

I think that's a dangerous line of argument. It suggests that the ethics depend upon the animal's purpose as decided by humans. If animals can choose to make one animal food, then they can just as easily choose to do it with another.

Possibly, but it's a very cogent argument explaining why people visceral reactions are so different.

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Does eating this shit get kids into TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if you feel like you have to ask if something is racist, then chances are good that it's racist.

OP here, I didn't think the joke was racist (otherwise why would I say it?!). But someone called me racist for the joke. Maybe they got it after I explained it's a real phenomenon. Of course they could have also just thought the same of me. I won't be making that joke again. Unless of course someone does determine one of the local places is in fact cooking up the cats....

I think it all depends on your definition of "racism." Some people think racism requires a suggestion that one race is superior/inferior to another. Other people think any stereotyping of behavior based on race is racism. Still others believe that only people whose race has maintained long-term political power (i.e., whites in the US) can be racist, and so no one else can be racist no matter what they do. Lots of people kind of stir together all these different definitions, or change their definition depending on the situation. So I guess the answer is "maybe ... maybe not."

And many other people love to see "racism" lurking behind every tree. It's sort of a game with them, I'm starting to think. Or a shake-down.

Example?

[Anonymous]

So what if people eat dogs? It's not only asians; some Nordic cultures, certain regions of Spain/France, and many indigenous cultures around the world have a history of eating dogs. When you have limited resources, you take what you can get. Maybe people here should think about how strange some of the things eaten in the US are. For example, why is eating roadkill or cinnabuns as big as your head any more or less disgusting that eating dog?

Is it racist to point it out that some Asian cultures do eat dog? No. Is it racist to single out certain Asian cultures and somehow use it as an indictment of culture? Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:So what if people eat dogs? It's not only asians; some Nordic cultures, certain regions of Spain/France, and many indigenous cultures around the world have a history of eating dogs. When you have limited resources, you take what you can get. Maybe people here should think about how strange some of the things eaten in the US are. For example, why is eating roadkill or cinnabuns as big as your head any more or less disgusting that eating dog?

Is it racist to point it out that some Asian cultures do eat dog? No. Is it racist to single out certain Asian cultures and somehow use it as an indictment of culture? Yes.

Sorry, I am French and WE DO NOT EAT DOGS! Now we will eat a horse or donkey steak but dogs are our friends.