SIL is silently mooching off our Netflix streaming account

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's part of the Netflix end user agreement - section 2.3 seems to cover this, although I admit I haven't read the whole thing, and 2.1 is at least a little ambiguous.

Permitted Use/Restrictions2.1Grant of Limited License. Netflix grants you (which, for purposes of this License Agreement, shall include members of your immediate household for whom you will be responsible hereunder and users of the Netflix ready device with which you are accessing the Netflix service and for whom you will be responsible hereunder) a non-exclusive, limited, personal and nontransferable license, subject to and conditioned on your compliance with the restrictions set forth in this License Agreement, to install and use the Software, in object code form only, provided to you by or on behalf of Netflix in connection with your use of the Netflix service.
2.2The license grant above includes the right to use documentation accompanying the Software for the sole purpose of using the Netflix service and the right to make one (1) backup copy of the Software, provided that (i) the Software is installed on only the number of Netflix ready devices authorized by Netflix (which number shall be six (6) Netflix ready devices unless otherwise agreed or modified in writing by Netflix); (ii) the Software may NOT be modified; (iii) all copyright notices are maintained on the Software; and (iv) you agree to be bound by all the terms of this License Agreement.
2.3The Software is only for your own personal, non-commercial use and not for use in the operation of a business or service bureau, for profit or for the benefit or any other person or entity.
2.4As a condition of the limited license for the Software granted to you in this License Agreement, except as and only to the extent expressly permitted in this License Agreement or by applicable law which cannot be waived by this License Agreement, you may NOT:
a.publish, display, disclose, rent, lease, modify, loan, distribute or create derivative works based on the Software or any part thereof;
b.copy, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, translate, adapt or otherwise reduce the Software to human readable form;
c.attempt to create the source code from the object code of the Software;
d.transmit or make the Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers or Netflix ready devices at the same time;
e.make any third-party software contained in the Software a standalone product;
f.take any action that will infringe on the intellectual property or other proprietary rights of Netflix or any third party software provider;
g.sublicense or assign the Software;
h.view any movies & TV shows provided by Netflix or its suppliers anywhere other than within the country or location authorized by Netflix ("Territory"); and
i.instantly watch movies & TV shows outside of the Territory, and Netflix may use technologies to verify your compliance.
2.5If you "uninstall" the Software, you will no longer be able to use the Software to view movies & TV shows on that Netflix ready device.
2.6No ownership rights. You have no ownership rights in any Software. Rather, you have a limited license to use the Software as long as this License Agreement remains in effect. Ownership of the Software and all intellectual property rights therein shall remain at all times with Netflix and/or its licensors. Any other use of the Software by any other person, business, corporation, government or any other entity is strictly prohibited and is a violation of this License Agreement.

SIL is not an immediate member of your household and you are are not responsible for her device. PW needs to be changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it's allowed by Netflix rules, I don't see why you wouldn't be willing to share, but she certainly should have asked first. You seem very vindictive and bitter (as do many people on DCUM).

And self-righteous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Because what the SIL is doing is morally wrong. Your attitude is what's wrong with America these days.

Racing for the moral high ground, already

[Anonymous]

You could start buying her a gift subscription-you feel generous, she gets her free movies, you don't have to worry about figuring out what to get her-win, win, win.

[Anonymous]

OP,

So you change the password. She visits again, and the situation repeats itself and your children tell her the new password.

Something to consider.

You could drop Netflix and use Hulu Plus for a few months.

[Anonymous]

P.S. I love the gift certificate idea. Make love not war, sister!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:12:04- nerd

You = moocher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP,

So you change the password. She visits again, and the situation repeats itself and your children tell her the new password.

Something to consider.

You could drop Netflix and use Hulu Plus for a few months.

Do you honestly consider taking all these drastic steps necessary for so trivial an issue? WTF.....

[Anonymous]

I think what SIL is doing is actually a modern form of stealing. It is highly unlikely that Netflix will ever do anything about it even if its not too difficult to detect, but if everyone starts doing this, Netflix will have to raise its prices. Many here seem to think its not a big deal, but I agree with the poster who feels its morally wrong, and I personally would not want to be involved in such an activity.

Also, there is a privacy issue here - as long as your SIL accesses your account, she can see exactly when and what you were watching. I find this a bit annoying as well.

Now, since its your SIL, and you don't want any family drama, I like the idea of giving them Netflix for Christmas, and changing the password at that time. This way, you eliminate the problem, and Netflix gains a customer.

[Anonymous]

14:29 WTF? OP is upset, not me. I'm just pointing out that her children shared the password, which is how this started. If OP is so upset, why doesn't she instruct her children never to share their family password? This could happen with babysitters, friends, etc. If OP doesn't handle directly, SIL might not know it was a problem and do the same thing should she get the new password.

Just trying to help. GEEZ. WTF back at you.

Teaching kids not to share passwords is part of parenting, BTW.

[Anonymous]

PS I'm glad OP's SIL isn't LOUDLY mooching off her Netflix account!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:14:29 WTF? OP is upset, not me. I'm just pointing out that her children shared the password, which is how this started. If OP is so upset, why doesn't she instruct her children never to share their family password? This could happen with babysitters, friends, etc. If OP doesn't handle directly, SIL might not know it was a problem and do the same thing should she get the new password.

Just trying to help. GEEZ. WTF back at you.

Teaching kids not to share passwords is part of parenting, BTW.

Where in the OP is it stated that the children gave away the password?

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for all the responses so far! The account is mine - in my name, handled by me, so my husband isn't involved in this. I know SIL didn't ask him to use the account, and I'd rather not get him involved in this admittedly small (petty?!) issue. My SIL and I have had a history of tension, with periods of amiability. My kid is in preschool and has no idea about passwords or what Netflix is. SIL is not hurting for money, as she and her husband are both professionals who make good salaries. Her kid is in preschool (it's been interesting to see the huge amount of tv the kid watches, which is apparent from the number of new shows that come up every day on the "Recently Watched" section).

Since PPs asked, here is another small example or two of SIL's cheapness: when she buys coffee by the pound, she gets the most expensive kind but then writes down on the bag the code for the cheapest kind, so the cashier charges her less. She gets upset and angry if she is expected to pay for anything when everyone goes out, such as going out for breakfast, even though the ratio of our treating them to them treating us is about 35:1. SIL admits she is cheap and even takes pride in it.

Had she asked to share the Netflix, then the issue would be more about comfort level in cheating the company, but the first issue is that she just helped herself without asking. If I had to guess, I'd bet she thinks we wouldn't notice she has accessed the account daily since our visit.

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the "who cares/big deal/this is petty" posters. Based on your new post, OP, I say change the password. I wouldn't even mention it to her (can cause an unnecessary argument and turn something small into a big family drama-fest).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the "who cares/big deal/this is petty" posters. Based on your new post, OP, I say change the password. I wouldn't even mention it to her (can cause an unnecessary argument and turn something small into a big family drama-fest).

+1

(Who steals coffee like that?)