Teachers Bullied by Parents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

Good gracious. Different poster. Have to award game, set and match to the researcher. @17:25 achieved the trifecta of nasty, immature, and illogical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

Good gracious. Different poster. Have to award game, set and match to the researcher. @17:25 achieved the trifecta of nasty, immature, and illogical.

and who appointed you line judge. Get in the dialog or get out of the thread. Lazy people who stand on the sidelines handing out atta boys and demerits don't qualify for participation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else experience this? I had a parent come in for a conference this year that lost her cool and said some terrible things. I wanted to let her have it--I don't get paid very much, I work like a dog all year (yes, all year) and put up with a terrible boss because I love my students. I pour my heart and soul in to work--she had a lot of nerve to suggest I didn't. Parent didnt want to hear that her child is in academic trouble and needs extra help.

No, she does not want to hear it and if she pays full tuition, is legacy, etc. you can't. That is the shitty thing about private schools. I worked my ASS off at a private last year, met with one family EVERY SINGLE WEEK about her child, went to constant meetings, did everything that was asked at that crazy place, loved those kids and worked hard to help them close their gaps, etc, etc, etc. but it was useless. My advice: go look for a job in a charter or in a public school. You will get a hell of a lot more respect and the kids and their families will be a whole lot more grateful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

Good gracious. Different poster. Have to award game, set and match to the researcher. @17:25 achieved the trifecta of nasty, immature, and illogical.

and who appointed you line judge. Get in the dialog or get out of the thread. Lazy people who stand on the sidelines handing out atta boys and demerits don't qualify for participation.

Um, okay. Now everyone thinks your argument is the best one. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

Researcher here. Anyone with two cents' worth of experience knows to qualify things you're not 100% sure about with words like "pretty sure" and "generally." That's very basic stuff if you don't want to be called out by your peers. In your case I was 99% sure you're not a teacher but not 100% sure. I am about 89.253% sure (how's that for false precision?) that you're the type who bullies teachers.

(And you wrote "if one hopes ... they should...."? Snort!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh boo-hoo! Everyone who works in any profession faces this. Why should teachers be any different?! Just have to put your big girl/boy pants on and deal.

You need a new catchphrase, this one is dead.

[Anonymous]

My advice: go look for a job in a charter or in a public school. You will get a hell of a lot more respect and the kids and their families will be a whole lot more grateful.
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Ahhh..sorry..none of that respect is apparent in the public school sector. Also..did you say "grateful?" Really? I'm pretty sure there are some grateful kids and parents in all settings, but they are all not residing in one area of education, believe me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My advice: go look for a job in a charter or in a public school. You will get a hell of a lot more respect and the kids and their families will be a whole lot more grateful.
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Ahhh..[b]sorry..none of that respect is apparent in the public school sector. Also..did you say "grateful?" Really? I'm pretty sure there are some grateful kids and parents in all settings, but they are all not residing in one area of education, believe me.

And you know this, how?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

Researcher here. Anyone with two cents' worth of experience knows to qualify things you're not 100% sure about with words like "pretty sure" and "generally." That's very basic stuff if you don't want to be called out by your peers. In your case I was 99% sure you're not a teacher but not 100% sure. I am about 89.253% sure (how's that for false precision?) that you're the type who bullies teachers.

(And you wrote "if one hopes ... they should...."? Snort!)

Well played, researcher. I'm the line judge here -- you hit an ace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many assessment are poorly worded and deliberately ambiguous. This occurs primarily when teachers use off-the-shelf, publisher generated test questions. Knowledge is knowledge and one should be able to attain those same facts from any source. Publishers however word their questions in such a way that if the students have not memorized the exact phraseology used in their textbook students have title chance of answering the questions correctly.

Quality instructors write their own assessments or edit test bank questions to remove ambiguities.

Poor and lazy instructors barely read the questions and answers they cut and paste into assessments before they are assigned. They then proclaim indignation when they are not universally adored by student's and parents alike.

Those ambiguous assessments with poorly worded questions are a key reason we fled MCPS. My child's independent school had its open house today and I was able to sit through two classes. I was BLOWN AWAY by the quality of the teaching. My son and I discussed it all evening. And reading this thread, I realize I really need to email the teachers to thank them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many assessment are poorly worded and deliberately ambiguous. This occurs primarily when teachers use off-the-shelf, publisher generated test questions. Knowledge is knowledge and one should be able to attain those same facts from any source. Publishers however word their questions in such a way that if the students have not memorized the exact phraseology used in their textbook students have title chance of answering the questions correctly.

Quality instructors write their own assessments or edit test bank questions to remove ambiguities.

Poor and lazy instructors barely read the questions and answers they cut and paste into assessments before they are assigned. They then proclaim indignation when they are not universally adored by student's and parents alike.

Those ambiguous assessments with poorly worded questions are a key reason we fled MCPS. My child's independent school had its open house today and I was able to sit through two classes. I was BLOWN AWAY by the quality of the teaching. My son and I discussed it all evening. And reading this thread, I realize I really need to email the teachers to thank them.

Researcher here. My kids' MCPCs teachers never relied on off-the-shelf assessments, ambiguously worded or otherwise. We tried private for a few years and left after the "social studies" teacher who told us during the patent conference that she didn't like social studies so she was going to teach haiku for six weeks instead. So I'm not saying teachers are perfect. I am saying it's wrong to generalize, about either public or private teachers. I respect them all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a nice gig. There is very little administrative supervision and to children in their classrooms they appear all powerful. They can praise and criticize at will. They can work hard and on other days just phone it in. Many become accustomed to teacher adoration. Those who succumb to the idea they should be adored should never have become teachers or anything else for that matter.

Teachers are not anymore altruistic than the rest of the population. Some are great and many are not. The notion that poor instruction should not be challenged is ridiculous.

What are you smoking, or are you shooting it up?

Yes, some are great and many are not. Where do you teach?

I don't teach. Never have, never will. The only teachers in my extended family have been full professors, which I think we can agree is totally different. I've been a guest teacher a few times at the university level myself (I'm in research, have been a guest teacher at Princeton and GMU) and even that was exhausting.

But here's the rub: you don't teach either. Pretty sure you lack both the altruism and stamina that are necessary to teach.

Congratulations on your research, however if your teachers had been better you might have learned somewhere along the way that if one ever hopes to win a Nobel Prize for their research they should use more definitive terms than saying they are "pretty sure". While we're at it today, can you share any other tidbits of wisdom in which you are pretty sure about today.

Good gracious. Different poster. Have to award game, set and match to the researcher. @17:25 achieved the trifecta of nasty, immature, and illogical.

and who appointed you line judge. Get in the dialog or get out of the thread. Lazy people who stand on the sidelines handing out atta boys and demerits don't qualify for participation.

Um, okay. Now everyone thinks your argument is the best one. LOL.

No ... not at all, they are simply aware you are adding no content to the dialog beyond being a self-appointed score keeper. You are a score keeper not a commentator. You add no value to the dialog beyond being a cheerleader. If you have nothing to add to the dialog why bother making believe you are participating? Stop phoning it in! If you are not going to participate - stay home!

[Anonymous]

You're pretty light in the "adding value" category yourself.