NNAT, Cogat and GBRS, Eligible? 2012

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Same here - no response yet.


Update: Received email confirmation this morning. (Faxed placement form on May 1)


who did it come from? I want to make sure I didn't accidentally delete it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Same here - no response yet.


Update: Received email confirmation this morning. (Faxed placement form on May 1)


who did it come from? I want to make sure I didn't accidentally delete it.


Calagua, Oscar F. "From Advanced Academic Programs Office"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Son did not get in. I like to appeal. Where can I find the Appeal Form? And what is the procedure? Any help would greatly be appreciated. Kind of disturbed. I guess his GBR was not good. His CogAT 99 percentile, stanine 9A. Please help.


I am sorry.

You need to have new information to appeal. Best bet is likely a WISC if you can afford it. (Cost will be roughly $350 - $500.) GMU does WISC testing or you could opt for a private psychologist. Call very soon (tomorrow?) as you will need time to make the appointment, have the testing done, and get the report back.

Link to appeal form (deadline is June 1):
http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/Spring2012AdvAcadLevelIVProgramAppealForm.pdf

Link to GMU testing:
http://cap.gmu.edu/

Link to post listing some private psychologists:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/228708.page#2342731


Good luck!




Thank you for your help. I scheduled appointment with GMU. But, Today, AART said, no WISC test is required (GBR - 12). She advised to appeal with few more adult recommendations only. Will it work? Did anyone have any experience like that (Appeal without WISC)? Can you please suggest any other doc to submit along with recommendation? Thank you. I appreciate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Son did not get in. I like to appeal. Where can I find the Appeal Form? And what is the procedure? Any help would greatly be appreciated. Kind of disturbed. I guess his GBR was not good. His CogAT 99 percentile, stanine 9A. Please help.


I am sorry.

You need to have new information to appeal. Best bet is likely a WISC if you can afford it. (Cost will be roughly $350 - $500.) GMU does WISC testing or you could opt for a private psychologist. Call very soon (tomorrow?) as you will need time to make the appointment, have the testing done, and get the report back.

Link to appeal form (deadline is June 1):
http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/Spring2012AdvAcadLevelIVProgramAppealForm.pdf

Link to GMU testing:
http://cap.gmu.edu/

Link to post listing some private psychologists:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/228708.page#2342731


Good luck!




Thank you for your help. I scheduled appointment with GMU. But, Today, AART said, no WISC test is required (GBR - 12). She advised to appeal with few more adult recommendations only. Will it work? Did anyone have any experience like that (Appeal without WISC)? Can you please suggest any other doc to submit along with recommendation? Thank you. I appreciate.


Very few appeals without new test scores are found eligible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Thank you for your help. I scheduled appointment with GMU. But, Today, AART said, no WISC test is required (GBR - 12). She advised to appeal with few more adult recommendations only. Will it work? Did anyone have any experience like that (Appeal without WISC)? Can you please suggest any other doc to submit along with recommendation? Thank you. I appreciate.


Very few appeals without new test scores are found eligible.


+1
Anonymous
If you feel strongly that your kid needs the AAP program, you should do the WISC. The decision of the appeal committee is final and this is your last chance for 3rd grade AAP admittance.
Anonymous
Thank you all for your comments. I agree. It might be risky without WISC and this is my last chance.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Son got in. Greenbriar West.

NNAT 121
COGAT composite 139
Grades mostly G's and some O's
GBRS unknown


Parent of a first grader here. For above PP and other PP whose DC got a NNAT 121 - did you prep for the COGAT? My DC's NNAT was a 123 and I thought this was low (for FCPA AAP anyway). She is well above grade level, does pull outs for math and reading and gets mostly Os. I've thought about prepping, but am also nervous about stressing her out about it, so am leaning toward just leaving it alone. I can see the benefit of preparing her with the format, test taking strategies (don't leave any blank, take best guess, etc) but again - don't want to make a big deal out of the test and make her nervous. Did you do anything?


I did teach her some test taking strategies before the CogAT (I did for NNAT too but she was less receptive then) but she did not have prep classes or practice tests. If your child hasn't done these kind of logic tests before, I recommend printing some critical thinking questions out and coaching her through the process of how to answer them - most importantly how to fill out a bubble sheet and that you should never skip questions. With tough multiple choice questions you can teach her to eliminate the obviously wrong answers with a "guess and check" process and then do her best guess of whats left. Another big thing - read the entire question! Sometimes my daughter rushes in and only reads the first sentence of a word problem and assumes what she needs to do...good to have her practice some wordy logic questions. Her experience taking math club exams helped a lot with her comfort level in a testing environment and again gave her confidence that she can handle even the toughest questions.

I found a couple sample CogAT questions online at some point (just 1 per test type) - they're out there for free if you hunt. Helped her understand what kind of stuff they'd be asking her - made her feel more in control and prepared - something my child at least needs to do well. I do think her maturity and improved test taking abilities was the reason for the improved score.

I think too many parents with gifted kids expect a test to tell them if a child is gifted, and leave it a bit up to chance, as opposed to making sure their child knows enough about taking tests, so that the test accurately reflects the child.



Thanks, this is helpful. Are you sure the 2nd grade CogAT is bubble sheet format? For the NNAT, the kids answered directly in the booklet. Don't want to cause confusion by practicing bubble sheets if they won't be used....
Anonymous
Does anyone know which cogat form they used this year?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know which cogat form they used this year?


Form 7
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly that your kid needs the AAP program, you should do the WISC. The decision of the appeal committee is final and this is your last chance for 3rd grade AAP admittance.


Got WISC result yesterday. Verbal 132, Perceptual Organization 127, Full Scale 130. WJ-III score: Reading 120, Math 136. His CogAt 133, NNAT 124, GBR 12. How good is the chance? Will WISC and WJ-III result help? No harm in appealing though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly that your kid needs the AAP program, you should do the WISC. The decision of the appeal committee is final and this is your last chance for 3rd grade AAP admittance.


Got WISC result yesterday. Verbal 132, Perceptual Organization 127, Full Scale 130. WJ-III score: Reading 120, Math 136. His CogAt 133, NNAT 124, GBR 12. How good is the chance? Will WISC and WJ-III result help? No harm in appealing though.


Yes, the WISC should help. There's a fairly good chance that your child will have a successful appeal. Good luck!
Anonymous
I'm very very surprised your kid didn't get in first round. Those WISC scores put you in.
Anonymous
Thank you for your wishes and support. Even AART got surprised when he did not get in first round. I wish he gets in this time. If not, we will try next year. I am happy with my son's performance and go from there. But whatever it is, I like this forum. I get positive energy and valuable information.
Anonymous
How long does appeal process take to complete? When will the result be announced? Should we contact school AART for result or would receive in mail?
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