NNAT, Cogat and GBRS, Eligible? 2012

Anonymous
Thank you. I shall call her. I agree. If an additional $70 provides me professional opinion, it is worth it.
Anonymous
NNAT 146
Cogat composite 144
GBRS 16
Eligible
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Son got in. Greenbriar West.

NNAT 121
COGAT composite 139
Grades mostly G's and some O's
GBRS unknown


Parent of a first grader here. For above PP and other PP whose DC got a NNAT 121 - did you prep for the COGAT? My DC's NNAT was a 123 and I thought this was low (for FCPA AAP anyway). She is well above grade level, does pull outs for math and reading and gets mostly Os. I've thought about prepping, but am also nervous about stressing her out about it, so am leaning toward just leaving it alone. I can see the benefit of preparing her with the format, test taking strategies (don't leave any blank, take best guess, etc) but again - don't want to make a big deal out of the test and make her nervous. Did you do anything?



Anonymous
that is supposed to read FCPS (not FCPA)
Anonymous
What is Woodcock-Johnson III? Is it WJ-III Cognitive Abilities or WJ-III Achievement? GMU administers only WISC IV, but Private tester does both WISC IV and WoodCock-Johnson III. Any insight? I googled and found WJ-III Cognitive Abilities and WJ-III Achievement. Are both same? Whoever tried private tester might know the difference. Please comment.
Anonymous
What kind of a WISC score are the committee looking for? Are any categories more important than others? Or are all areas considered equal?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is Woodcock-Johnson III? Is it WJ-III Cognitive Abilities or WJ-III Achievement? GMU administers only WISC IV, but Private tester does both WISC IV and WoodCock-Johnson III. Any insight? I googled and found WJ-III Cognitive Abilities and WJ-III Achievement. Are both same? Whoever tried private tester might know the difference. Please comment.


http://hoagiesgifted.org/tests.htm#wj

"The WJ-III Achievement Test is probably the most often recommended individual achievement test for gifted children, thanks to its high ceilings (past high school levels)."
Anonymous
Correction- GMU does offer more tests than just WISC IV:

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) has designated GMU as the primary provider of individually administered intellectual assessment. The purpose of this program is to provide high quality, timely, and comparable assessments for all gifted and talented applicants, as well as to make individual Cognitive Assessment Program (CAP) assessments available for families in this community at a reasonable cost, or in the case of qualifying families, no cost.

The intelligence measures typically administered include the Wechsler Intelligence Scales for Children (WISC-IV), the Stanford-Binet (SB5), the Wechsler Preschool and Primary Scales of Intelligence (WPPSI-III), the Differential Abilities Scale (DAS-II) or the Cognitive Assessment System (CAS). The specific test selected may vary according to the specific needs of your child. An assessment will consist of an interview and formal intelligence testing, later to be followed by a formal interpretive feedback session and written report of the results.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Son got in. Greenbriar West.

NNAT 121
COGAT composite 139
Grades mostly G's and some O's
GBRS unknown


Parent of a first grader here. For above PP and other PP whose DC got a NNAT 121 - did you prep for the COGAT? My DC's NNAT was a 123 and I thought this was low (for FCPA AAP anyway). She is well above grade level, does pull outs for math and reading and gets mostly Os. I've thought about prepping, but am also nervous about stressing her out about it, so am leaning toward just leaving it alone. I can see the benefit of preparing her with the format, test taking strategies (don't leave any blank, take best guess, etc) but again - don't want to make a big deal out of the test and make her nervous. Did you do anything?


I did teach her some test taking strategies before the CogAT (I did for NNAT too but she was less receptive then) but she did not have prep classes or practice tests. If your child hasn't done these kind of logic tests before, I recommend printing some critical thinking questions out and coaching her through the process of how to answer them - most importantly how to fill out a bubble sheet and that you should never skip questions. With tough multiple choice questions you can teach her to eliminate the obviously wrong answers with a "guess and check" process and then do her best guess of whats left. Another big thing - read the entire question! Sometimes my daughter rushes in and only reads the first sentence of a word problem and assumes what she needs to do...good to have her practice some wordy logic questions. Her experience taking math club exams helped a lot with her comfort level in a testing environment and again gave her confidence that she can handle even the toughest questions.

I found a couple sample CogAT questions online at some point (just 1 per test type) - they're out there for free if you hunt. Helped her understand what kind of stuff they'd be asking her - made her feel more in control and prepared - something my child at least needs to do well. I do think her maturity and improved test taking abilities was the reason for the improved score.

I think too many parents with gifted kids expect a test to tell them if a child is gifted, and leave it a bit up to chance, as opposed to making sure their child knows enough about taking tests, so that the test accurately reflects the child.
Anonymous
For those who were found eligible:

Did you receive an email in response to the placement form that you sent back in? It asked for an email address and said that an email confirmation would be sent when it was received. I faxed it over on Monday and have not yet received a confirmation, and I just wanted to make sure I'm not alone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For those who were found eligible:

Did you receive an email in response to the placement form that you sent back in? It asked for an email address and said that an email confirmation would be sent when it was received. I faxed it over on Monday and have not yet received a confirmation, and I just wanted to make sure I'm not alone.


No response yet either.
Anonymous
Same here - no response yet.
Anonymous
Thanks! Maybe they're waiting until after the deadline to send the responses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks! Maybe they're waiting until after the deadline to send the responses.


I faxed last Monday and did get an e-mail response--I think it was on Thursday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Same here - no response yet.


Update: Received email confirmation this morning. (Faxed placement form on May 1)
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