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Have your children ever had an extremely disruptive child in elementary class?
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Anonymous
| Another dc teacher here. I teach first and have constant issues with mainstreaming. There are just some kids who are not ready for the general education classroom. They are not. And mainstreaming has become this holy grail for parents of SOME special needs kids. I had an ED student last year who used to masturbate, in class! Not making this up! He would also grab girls butts, pretend to pee on people, and try to strangle kids. And the catch is a kid with an IEP cannot be suspended for behavior that is a manifestation of their disability. So, he carried on- all year. This year I have a student who knows 8 letters and 3 numbers. He cannot even recognize all the letters in his own name. The school expects me to differentiate to meet his 'level' when the ultimate form of differentiation would be to allow tracking. |
Anonymous
| pp, do you think teachers should be rated on student performance? |
Anonymous
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6:55 here.
This is a loaded question- as this means different things to different people. So if you define what you mean I will respond. You may not like it, but at least I will answer the correct question. It depends on what you are measuring as performance? By a portfolio of the students work? By a standardized test? By our ability to show growth? Also- just to be clear- we here in DC are rated against the 'average child' when we all know that there is no average. Ward 2 is drastically different than Ward 7. Its not fair that a Ward 7 teacher is compared to a Ward 2, but its also not fair what a Ward 2 teacher is deemed quality- when he/she really does not show growth, but rather just keeps an above average kid above average. So clarify your question and I will respond. Thanks |
Anonymous
| 22:29. Wow, I could have written your post. Douchebag is the perfect description. |
Anonymous
| 6:55 Wow. do you think the parents of the other kids in class knew what was happeneing? As a parent I would withdrawn my child from that school if I knew what was happening. |
Anonymous
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I have a kid who can be disruptive and physically inappropriate (aggressive) due to his disability. We go out of our way to keep our child from disrupting the education of the other students. We fought hard for a dedicated aide and that makes a huge difference. It's expensive, but it makes it possible for our kid to stay in a "normal" school and for DC to be removed quickly from the classroom when a meltdown starts or is imminent. Frankly, we would prefer that the school district have a self-contained program for this particular disability, but they don't so we have no other choice. We can't possibly afford to pay for an appropriate private education on our own. We are try to hold out until we can't any longer and then homeschool. DC feels horrible about the outbursts and wants to withdraw from society. I would have a parade if they would start a program for kids like mine so that the other kids wouldn't be disturbed. Thankfully the outbursts aren't every day by any stretch, there are proactive breaks taken, and DC is smart so the actual education process is not difficult. But, honestly, for the price of the aide and the sped help, a self-contained classroom with 8-10 kids has got to be cheaper for the district.
Anyway, it kills us that our child makes it difficult for other kids to learn and enjoy school. After many years of intervention, lots of progress has been made and we hope that even more will be made in the next couple of years. If not, we will go ahead and homeschool. |
Anonymous
Thank you for sharing your story. This must be incredibly hard for your family. I wish you all the best. |
Anonymous
| I think "mainstreaming" is naive, and ultimately is basically ignoring the problem and allowing it to continue, it does absolutely nobody any good. It doesn't help the child with the problem, and it disrupts the rest of the class. Disruptive students need to work one-on-one or in very small, controlled groups, until the behavior gets under control. |
Anonymous
| Wow. With regard to the behavior described in 6:55, the discussion shouldn't even be about how to handle a kid like that in a classroom or differentiation, it should be about principals, children and youth services and police - and anyone in that chain who disagrees needs a psych eval as well. |
Anonymous
You think the police should be called on a special ed first grader? |
Anonymous
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A.) If a first grader is engaging in highly inappropriate and aggressive sexual behavior such as masturbating and grabbing others inappropriately, there's an extremely high likelihood that there are other very serious problems in the home, and that more serious intervention is needed than anything anyone can do in the school.
and... B.) D.C. Criminal Code § 22-1312 - it is criminal behavior |
Anonymous
Oh, sure, just coddle the kid, shrug and look the other way. And a few years later, the kid's a hulking 180lb teenager trying to rape anything he can get his hands on. Some great way to deal with the problem that is. |
Anonymous
Masturbating inappropriately (in public) and grabbing others in early elementary school is pretty common for some kinds of special ed students--it definitely does not indicate necessarily "serious problems in the home." |
Anonymous
| 23:16, Fairfax has an excellent elementary ED program called "CEDS" if you are local and want to look into it. |
Anonymous
| 13:59. If so, why do these children need to be mainstreamed? "Normal" children get expelled for that type of thing. |