Have your children ever had an extremely disruptive child in elementary class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've got to come up with a solution better than "throw them in a warehouse to rot" or "put kids who're not ready for prime time in a class and disrupt 20-30 other students' learning process."

Problems come up when you have:
1) Parents that are in denial. I suspect this has gone up over the years but I have no proof. Some parents have $$$ and will let everyone know it.
2) Teachers who are scared do begin the process of reporting.
3) Other parents who in the process of complaining manage to shoot their cause in the foot (complaining about "retards," "certain crowds," etc.)
4) Principals who can't be arsed to do anything.
5) IEPs that are poorly-written, wrongly enforced, etc. Upper elementary kids start knowing how to abuse the system too.

Thing is I suspect there were more chemicals in the food/environment in the 60s/70s ... this is the era of the Cuyahoga catching on fire.

Maybe there's more stress in terms of family finances.

The rights of the other students are as important as the rights of a child with behavioral issues.

Another trick I have heard of is disruptive kids getting re-IQ and other tested so they are bounced from group to group.

Disruptive students should not have the right to deny the rest of the kids an education.

[Anonymous]

Thing is I suspect there were more chemicals in the food/environment in the 60s/70s ... this is the era of the Cuyahoga catching on fire.

No, there have always been disruptive students. They are treated differently. In some cases, it is the right thing to do, in other cases it is parents who need to wise up.

[Anonymous]

I hope so. We are not looking to other private schools because my feeling is it will be hard to go somewhere else private when he does not have straight As. So he is taking the test for the specialized public schools and hoping for the best. He does well on standardized tests so I suppose he will get in to one of them. Once there, though, he will go from being in a class with 20 kids to a teacher and 130 kids in a grade to a class with 35 kids to a teacher and 3,000 kids in a grade. I don't know how that is going to be better for him. It will improve my life not to be paying the private school tuition for 4 years, but I don't think it is a good thing for him. Oh, we are in NYC not DC, but your forum came up as i was googling, trying to understand how this could be happening when he didn't do anything wrong or even have bad grades. I feel sad, but, I guess - third world problems. And i should be thankful we are not dealing with cancer or ISIS or something truly serious. They told me they would tell me end of October if they were extending the contract for next year. In your opinion, if they did extend the contract, would you say no thanks, because who wants to send their kid to a place that is going to make them feel like a pariah? Or would i say yes if i felt the small class size and progressive education which really cannot be replicated even in the best public HS would be worth it? But they probably won't - I am just fooling myself, because if they would say that in the first week, they must really want him out.

[Anonymous]

Yes, and what's more, he was truly nasty, not just clueless. He really wanted to hurt people, the only child I have ever come across to act this way. I have a child with special needs, and I've seen many children with behavioral challenges - but never a streak of meanness like that. I believe that child is a psychopath, actually.

I requested that my son not be in the same classroom the year after, and luckily that happened. I also had to complain to the school when the child in question assaulted my TODDLER at pick-up time. The mother was right there and claimed it hadn't happened.

[Anonymous]

Can we close this thread and open a new one instead? It's from 2013.