Lulumon Murder: Apple Store Employees Testimony

[Anonymous]

I mean Apple!

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I do not own one Mac product, my teenager does though!

What does that have to do with anything?

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I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry.

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I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry.

Actually, those situations are really for the non-emergency police number, not 911. You really shouldn't tie up the 911 system for someone with car trouble or hitting his dog.

[Anonymous]

It's easy to quarterback on Monday morning. Brittany Norwood is on trial here, not the Apple employees. Talk about shades of Mark Furhman.

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I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry.

I am the poster who said it would annoy me, because like someone else has mentioned, that is not the time to call 911, it is the time to call the non emergency number. Thank you, and you can go back to being scared now, as I go back to being awful because I do not tie up 911's lines for non life threatening issues.

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I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry.

I am the poster who said it would annoy me, because like someone else has mentioned, that is not the time to call 911, it is the time to call the non emergency number. Thank you, and you can go back to being scared now, as I go back to being awful because I do not tie up 911's lines for non life threatening issues.

I'm the poster who said I've made those calls. They WERE life-threatening because they were occurring on or alongside city interstates when people were driving. Feel free to be annoyed; I'll keep calling when I see those types of situations. The woman with the blanket was clearly either mentally ill or under the influence of something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just clicked on all the pictures that are used as evidence for the trial and I am horrified by the amount of blood everywhere and all the tools that Brittany used. This is so sad. Is is being said if Brittany has mental issues? I can not imagine that someone would "snap" like this.

Yes, I know. I also saw the gallery of pics on WP and it seemed that 5 cows were slaughtered in that place! so much blood! I hope that f* bitch fry in prison.

[Anonymous]

I have always found the Apple employees at that particular Bethesda store to be:

a) COMPLETELY CLUELESS about the product they are selling,
b) COMPLETELY CLUELESS about social interaction--eye contact, pausing to listen, not talking over others and interrupting.
c) COMPLETELY UNMOTIVATED or UNINTERESTED in even making contact with a potential buyer who enters their store. They would rather chat with their friends wearing ironic Elis Costello glasses and black skinny jeans with cons than walk over and sell you a $3k MacBook Pro.

Do they work on commission? Because you would never know it. The security guards are morbidly obese and don't look capable of running after anyone to impose "security". And ironically, there is a huge # of employees standing around doing nothing.

[Anonymous]

Maybe they are paid minimum wage so Apple can keep stockpiling profits.

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If the most I heard was an argument, I would not call the police. Even if I heard the sounds of an actual fight between women, I would probably not call the police. I WOULD call the police if I heard someone say/shout "Help me" or if I heard screaming that's associated with pain. (Most people don't scream out during a fist fight).

This, of course, is not Murray's fault AT ALL, but I'm curious why she didn't scream for help rather than plead with psycho Norwood.

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I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry.

I am the poster who said it would annoy me, because like someone else has mentioned, that is not the time to call 911, it is the time to call the non emergency number. Thank you, and you can go back to being scared now, as I go back to being awful because I do not tie up 911's lines for non life threatening issues.

I'm the poster who said I've made those calls. They WERE life-threatening because they were occurring on or alongside city interstates when people were driving. Feel free to be annoyed; I'll keep calling when I see those types of situations. The woman with the blanket was clearly either mentally ill or under the influence of something.

Life threatening? Car trouble? So, if your car overheated on 495, you would call 911? Really?

Life threatening? Someone hitting a dog? 911? I love dogs; I have a dog. I would not dream of wasting my and my fellow taxpayers money by phoning 911 about someone hitting their dog.

The only one that is even borderline is the woman on the side of the interstate, but even that could have been solved calling the non-emergency number and letting the police determine whether it was more important than other calls.

[Anonymous]

It's truly a damn shame that there are some that have nothing to do but waste taxpayers money. I have heard of people that call to report the *stupidest* things. They have no qualms about doing it, but I know that the respondants don't appreciate it, and the reporters only lose credibility, should something really happen. Ever heard of "crying wolf"? God forbid karma take hold!

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure how they can live with themselves. My neighbor was raped and screamed but I slept through it all. I felt terrible for years.

Curious about how you got over it?

Therapy. Basically I had to accept I was asleep her screams didn't wake me. If I had been awake, I would have called 911 and probably gone over to check on her.

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No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry.

I am the poster who said it would annoy me, because like someone else has mentioned, that is not the time to call 911, it is the time to call the non emergency number. Thank you, and you can go back to being scared now, as I go back to being awful because I do not tie up 911's lines for non life threatening issues.

I'm the poster who said I've made those calls. They WERE life-threatening because they were occurring on or alongside city interstates when people were driving. Feel free to be annoyed; I'll keep calling when I see those types of situations. The woman with the blanket was clearly either mentally ill or under the influence of something.

Life threatening? Car trouble? So, if your car overheated on 495, you would call 911? Really?

Life threatening? Someone hitting a dog? 911? I love dogs; I have a dog. I would not dream of wasting my and my fellow taxpayers money by phoning 911 about someone hitting their dog.

The only one that is even borderline is the woman on the side of the interstate, but even that could have been solved calling the non-emergency number and letting the police determine whether it was more important than other calls.

Agree, none of those situations are life threatening and even the woman on the side of the road... she is doing nothing illegal.