Lulumon Murder: Apple Store Employees Testimony

[Anonymous]

Just curious what her ethnicity has to do with your anecdote?


Just curious, PP, why the mention of ethnicity makes you uncomfortable? Or do you police language for other reasons?

[Anonymous]

In the Kitty Genovese murder, the police were contacted during the attack. Many people heard something, but did not understand what was going on. The police did not make it there quickly enough to save her. Her initial injuries were severe and she may not have survived even if the police responded more quickly.

The "38 people heard or witnessed the attack and did nothing" is simply a myth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry, but I think it is crazy that people are refusing to go to the Apple store because of this. How could you possibly boycott the store because of this incident? Apple has nothing to do with this people.

Nobody said they are refusing to buy Apple products, just that they don't want to go to that particular store. No need to give those douchebags any commission.

[Anonymous]

8:20

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure how they can live with themselves. My neighbor was raped and screamed but I slept through it all. I felt terrible for years.

Curious about how you got over it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry, but I think it is crazy that people are refusing to go to the Apple store because of this. How could you possibly boycott the store because of this incident? Apple has nothing to do with this people.

Nobody said they are refusing to buy Apple products, just that they don't want to go to that particular store. No need to give those douchebags any commission.

It's two people out of all the employees from that apple store...no need to call them names.

I wish I could say that I would have helped for sure but I don't know what I would have done. I don't think it makes me a bad person, I just think we can't judge until we're in the situation ourselves.

I always go to that apple store and always get great service, so I will continue to go there, instead of getting just ok service at the other apple stores.

What happened is not the apple employees fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

[Anonymous]

OP, I totally agree with you. I thought exactly the same thing when I read the article, and don't think I'll be patronizing that particular Apple store again. I just don't want to do business with people who are so unwilling to participate in civil society. Will it make a difference? Yes it will. To me.

[Anonymous]

What if those two employees don't work at that store anymore? How will you know which stores to boycott?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry, but I think it is crazy that people are refusing to go to the Apple store because of this. How could you possibly boycott the store because of this incident? Apple has nothing to do with this people.

Nobody said they are refusing to buy Apple products, just that they don't want to go to that particular store. No need to give those douchebags any commission.

It's two people out of all the employees from that apple store...no need to call them names.

I wish I could say that I would have helped for sure but I don't know what I would have done. I don't think it makes me a bad person, I just think we can't judge until we're in the situation ourselves.

I always go to that apple store and always get great service, so I will continue to go there, instead of getting just ok service at the other apple stores.

What happened is not the apple employees fault.

THANK YOU!!! Come on people, it is not like the two apple employees wounded her over 300 plus times, nor did they know for a fact that something was terribly wrong. Stop beating these two people up. Could they have prevented a murder? Maybe, maybe not.

[Anonymous]

I just clicked on all the pictures that are used as evidence for the trial and I am horrified by the amount of blood everywhere and all the tools that Brittany used. This is so sad. Is is being said if Brittany has mental issues? I can not imagine that someone would "snap" like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that.

I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article.

No, this is how I read it, too. They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help. She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene. Maybe they should have. I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66. But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation. We all have the benefit of hindsight.

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, etc.

You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I do not own one Mac product, my teenager does though!