High school recommendations from our k-8 school and how should I feel about?

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I feel dumb in retrospect for not proactively getting him more support regardless of the school saying it wasn't necessary.

My colleague and friends all have been paying for enrichment classes, academic classes, tutors, etc... since early childhood. If you listen to Zarna Garg podcast/book, she talks about how she couldn't relate to HM parents sending their child to summer camps. She preferred to hire a tutor over the summer and homeschool her children. NYC is very competitive if you are aiming for TT schools. It becomes a family endeavors built around being admitted and thriving at TT schools. It is not for everyone. When my child reaches 7 grade, they will have to enjoy the grind otherwise I feel it best they have a sweet experience during high school.

op - i mean the whole value prop of paying alllll these years for me was we trusted them to track us towards the 'good' exmissions they promised. And they do have good exmissions overall. But I kept asking them year after year how the academics were and did we need more tutoring and they always said fine. I feel like if they'd said - look this kid is heading for dwight I would have either pulled him out or got him tutoring or both. Who wants to pay all their money to a school to get their kid into another expensive school they could have got the kid into after sending them to free school (and which is arguably not much better than free school.)

You are absolving yourself of any responsibility. If you have such high aspirations you are normally the parent that volunteer at the school, knows all their child classmates and faculty, observes where their child stand relative to their peers, knows the curriculum, etc...

On the positive it best to find out now compared to high school, but you need to have an honest assessment on your child capability and desires. Is he a competitive person in nature and does he aspire to grind academics.

This is a weird take.

I did do these things, also. But I’m not going around asking other parents for their ISEE scores

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Anonymous wrote:op - his school doesnt do grades so it's hard for me to track in the same way.

His non prepped ISEE scores were all over the place also from one test to the next so also hard to tell. I got a couple tutors for him after discussing with him bc we agreed (he and I) that it would be better to know what he can achieve with best effort while he is still in 7th and track accordingly, rather than guess. He's had math tutoring this year overall

I feel dumb in retrospect for not proactively getting him more support regardless of the school saying it wasn't necessary.

Is this an uptown, very small k-8 co-ed? I’m only aware of one k-8 that doesn’t give grades which is why I ask. Because if it’s that school, I’d hire a consultant if it’s in budget. A friend went through the high school process and the results were shocking.

Shocking how so?

Bad shock, not happy shock.

If we’re talking about the same school. Look at their exmission page. The verbiage is intentionally ambiguous “the following is a current list of high schools to which our graduates have been accepted.” This year? Ever? Regardless the list for 60k/ year— it’s not great.

Op - quite a few schools don’t give grades. And ours lists the exact schools each year that kids have gone to and how many went to each one

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

Op - as I’ve said several times, my expectation wasn’t T1 or bust. But it wasn’t Dwight as a first suggestion. I would also argue that fieldston isn’t in the same ballpark as Dwight. Anyone can get into Dwight

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Anonymous wrote:Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs.

Is this still true? I thought they had switched to mostly grade-based admissions for QE courses. You can go directly from Precalculus to BC, they don't require you to take AB first like some schools, so the 4-year sequence of Geometry -> Algebra II -> Precalculus -> BC Calculus is totally doable as long as you did Regents Algebra in 8th.

I think there are ways to catch up, but I get the point that the poster was making...the idea that your child deserves to be in the top just by virtue of going to a certain school for elementary is not realistic. Life doesn't work that way yet on this board the entitlement is real, and people tend to say "I'd rather move to a good public school" or, "my child will just go to BT" and they assume that the same issues of their child not being in the top tier won't persist, and if they just move to public school their kid will get into a top Ivy. That presumption is not correct.

Op - I think you’re missing the point. My point is i could get kid into Dwight from any school so why pay for one? AND I have been asking them about this for years specifically bc if I had known he was tracking to Dwight level I would have put him in public and saved myself some money and/ or got more tutoring

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

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Anonymous wrote:Op’s issue stems from miscommunication.

Even at TT only 30%-40% of the kids go to top colleges. Your average kids at a TT would be doing “fine” and wouldn’t necessarily need a tutor(s) because they are not at the bottom of the class and not getting Cs, but they won’t get into a top 20 college.

When OP’s school said her son was doing “fine” and doesn’t need tutoring it really just meant that: he is doing fine, but not great. OP somehow thought the average student from their school would end up at a TT. So there is mis-communication and mis-match in expectations.

Op - I cannot stress this enough. There is a huge difference between them never saying he needed tutoring and me assuming he was trinity bound and them never saying (despite being repeatedly asked) that he needed tutoring or any help and me thinking Dwight was going to be the first name they throw out. There are a LOT of tiers between Dwight and trinity. That is the point. You do not need to throw $65k downstream every year and volunteer for the fundraising committee for a school to tell you everything is academically fine and then offer up Dwight. Dwight is something that should not be a surprise

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Who is that

GIYF

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Anonymous wrote:op - his school doesnt do grades so it's hard for me to track in the same way.

His non prepped ISEE scores were all over the place also from one test to the next so also hard to tell. I got a couple tutors for him after discussing with him bc we agreed (he and I) that it would be better to know what he can achieve with best effort while he is still in 7th and track accordingly, rather than guess. He's had math tutoring this year overall

I feel dumb in retrospect for not proactively getting him more support regardless of the school saying it wasn't necessary.

Is this an uptown, very small k-8 co-ed? I’m only aware of one k-8 that doesn’t give grades which is why I ask. Because if it’s that school, I’d hire a consultant if it’s in budget. A friend went through the high school process and the results were shocking.

Shocking how so?

Bad shock, not happy shock.

If we’re talking about the same school. Look at their exmission page. The verbiage is intentionally ambiguous “the following is a current list of high schools to which our graduates have been accepted.” This year? Ever? Regardless the list for 60k/ year— it’s not great.

Op - quite a few schools don’t give grades. And ours lists the exact schools each year that kids have gone to and how many went to each one

Interesting. It’s the only Manhattan k-8 I’ve come across that didn’t have grades.

When your school suggested Dwight, what did you say? Did you counter with anything? You have mentioned Fieldston several times— did you ask about his chances there or at other schools on your radar?

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Anonymous wrote:op - his school doesnt do grades so it's hard for me to track in the same way.

His non prepped ISEE scores were all over the place also from one test to the next so also hard to tell. I got a couple tutors for him after discussing with him bc we agreed (he and I) that it would be better to know what he can achieve with best effort while he is still in 7th and track accordingly, rather than guess. He's had math tutoring this year overall

I feel dumb in retrospect for not proactively getting him more support regardless of the school saying it wasn't necessary.

Is this an uptown, very small k-8 co-ed? I’m only aware of one k-8 that doesn’t give grades which is why I ask. Because if it’s that school, I’d hire a consultant if it’s in budget. A friend went through the high school process and the results were shocking.

Shocking how so?

Bad shock, not happy shock.

If we’re talking about the same school. Look at their exmission page. The verbiage is intentionally ambiguous “the following is a current list of high schools to which our graduates have been accepted.” This year? Ever? Regardless the list for 60k/ year— it’s not great.

Op - quite a few schools don’t give grades. And ours lists the exact schools each year that kids have gone to and how many went to each one

What school? Most are vague with exmissions numbers, even the top ones

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Who is that

GIYF

If people have to google him then he’s not the household name pp thought. “Golly Gee, there’s billionaires in NJ! Must be a swell place to live fella. Suuuuurrrreee beats Manhattan!”

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Who is that

GIYF

If people have to google him then he’s not the household name pp thought. “Golly Gee, there’s billionaires in NJ! Must be a swell place to live fella. Suuuuurrrreee beats Manhattan!”

Can this side discussion please die. It is sad.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Who is that

GIYF

If people have to google him then he’s not the household name pp thought. “Golly Gee, there’s billionaires in NJ! Must be a swell place to live fella. Suuuuurrrreee beats Manhattan!”

Can this side discussion please die. It is sad.

Agreed. Can someone please shed light as to where students from Buckley St B St D and other K-8s go at different percentiles? Where can a middle of the pack, 75th percentile, 25th percentile student expect to go without some major hook? If you are the middle of the pack at St B are you going to Collegiate? If not, why are people paying close to 700k now all in for those nine years?

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Who is that

GIYF

If people have to google him then he’s not the household name pp thought. “Golly Gee, there’s billionaires in NJ! Must be a swell place to live fella. Suuuuurrrreee beats Manhattan!”

Can this side discussion please die. It is sad.

Agreed. Can someone please shed light as to where students from Buckley St B St D and other K-8s go at different percentiles? Where can a middle of the pack, 75th percentile, 25th percentile student expect to go without some major hook? If you are the middle of the pack at St B are you going to Collegiate? If not, why are people paying close to 700k now all in for those nine years?

Definitely not going to Collegiate if middle of the pack at St B. Collegiate is for the kids in the top 10 (assuming some of those top 10 kids go to Trinity and high end boarding as well).

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The pure snobbery on this board is a little shocking. I worked as hard in high school to get into an Ivy expecting nothing other than….an education and a chance to continue to work hard to get where I wanted to go. The expectation these places set you up for life seems like a bad idea to instill in your kid mainly because it isn’t even true for anything other than River Club membership. It’s icky, yes, but it’s mainly just stupid. If someone is “old family,” they don’t care to be your friend either way. You will just be yet another hanger on.

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Chiming in late the discussion, from a perspective of a parent that applied out from a mediocre k-8. Who cares what name your school threw out? Despite any other advice, the high school process is in large part the parents' hustle, hustle, hustle. We applied to 4 (UB-certified) TTs, 3 2Ts and 3 3Ts. Got accepted to 1 TT, 1 2T and 2 3Ts. Attend EVERYTHING, both parents. Show interest, thank you e-mails, etc. Pay special attention to the schools your kid likes. It will work out.