High school recommendations from our k-8 school and how should I feel about?

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.

Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

Yea, best in America. That’s why billionaire children and kids of celebrities fight tooth and nail to live in Milburn, so their kids can be exposed to staggering genius and drive.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Calling teenagers "unremarkable" is a... choice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

lol

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

I cross the river to go to Tuxedo.

Tepper, not exactly a society family. Glad to know the offspring of some average Joes knows his place and stays in NJ while the pedigrees live in Manhattan.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Calling teenagers "unremarkable" is a... choice.

Yep. Are you saying every teen is remarkable?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, there aren't enough spots at T1 schools for everyone going into high schools. Why are people shocked when their kids don't get into a T1 school? And justifying their belief that they should because they've paid XXX amount of dollars...ummmm almost everyone who is around paid the same amount, and has the same belief so, why do you think your money is worth more or your child is somehow the one who should get into T1? Every parent at say St. B's wants their kid to go T1, and thought that their son getting into St. B's would ensure their top high school choice but that's impossible when people insist that only going to a list of about 5 schools will mean success. Kids will have to go to "lesser" schools, and you are not getting scammed, or cheated, if that's your kid. I get being disappointed because what you had envisioned will not pan out, but that probably wouldn't have happened at Summit High School in NJ either because you have to start tracking in the top 10% of the class in literally middle school to even be allowed to take honors and APs. Or at Bronx Science because you needed to come in having already taken Geometry to make it into the top tier of students who will even be considered for the precious spots for APs. Your kid isn't going to fail at life because they "only" got into Fieldston or Grace or Dwight.

OP isn’t upset her kid isn’t going to a TT. She’s upset that she wasn’t warned her student was on track for a mediocre school despite good grades and scores. She was misled.



Being top 10% at summit is much easier than being median at St Bs. No one at summit would get into Trinity, even if the whole class applied.

Completely wrong. Summit (and Millburn, and others) is an excellent school and top kids there are as good as any kid in America. Since it is public it takes everyone so the "average" kid there is definitely lower, but the top are the top. I graduated from a similar school, went to a top undergrad and grad, and generally outpaced most of the NYC private school and boarding school kids. Probably the smartest kids I knew in college went to random public schools in flyover country.

This narrowmindedness is why the rest of America hates New Yorkers.

This. Drives me nuts. The top at Milburn are even more cut throat than the TT NYC private I went to because they actually have to do even more to stand out. And the parents...omg. We left to come back to the city because I couldn't bear the thought of having to deal with it for middle and high school. I'll take a NYC private school T2 every time if offered the choice.

They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

lol

I really, really would never want to live somewhere it is common to say “we are better than you and acceptable because of our bank account.” It is greasy, penny proud striverism. Having money is table stakes. Accomplishment, the arts, and erudition are what money makes possible. Of course, if you’re in Milburn you beg for a .000001 boost to your inflated GPA to get into Bucknell

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They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Don't feed the trolls.

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Anonymous wrote:They have to do more to stand out because, like their suburban parents, the kids are unremarkable. They are your 200k HHI, 2.1 kids, summer rental (2 weeks) families. That’s all fine but city families really demand more from life.

Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself. Your ignorant Manhattan-centric provincialism is making you look like an idiot. But keep on keeping on.

Not to dignify you with a response, but did you know that David Tepper's kids went to Livingston HS (same area as Millburn and Summit since you clearly never cross the river). I'm guessing he has a few more zeros at the end of his bank account than you.

Don't feed the trolls.

Agree. Let's move on. I actually remember this clown. They were the one who went on and on about their expertise with squash. So sad.

Anyhoo, what were we discussing before we were so rudely interrupted...

[Anonymous]

You were discussing how amazing the talent pool in milburn is and how one billionaire foolishly deciding to live in NJ makes it super desirable (like the Waltons in AR…..)

[Anonymous]

When is the OP having a meeting with the school to discuss the full list of options rather than just Dwight that they mentioned?

[Anonymous]

The TL:dr of this thread is don’t go to Trinity or be close to the opera with Losers, live in NJ with guido billionaire savants!

[Anonymous]

Op’s issue stems from miscommunication.

Even at TT only 30%-40% of the kids go to top colleges. Your average kids at a TT would be doing “fine” and wouldn’t necessarily need a tutor(s) because they are not at the bottom of the class and not getting Cs, but they won’t get into a top 20 college.

When OP’s school said her son was doing “fine” and doesn’t need tutoring it really just meant that: he is doing fine, but not great. OP somehow thought the average student from their school would end up at a TT. So there is mis-communication and mis-match in expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:Op’s issue stems from miscommunication.

Even at TT only 30%-40% of the kids go to top colleges. Your average kids at a TT would be doing “fine” and wouldn’t necessarily need a tutor(s) because they are not at the bottom of the class and not getting Cs, but they won’t get into a top 20 college.

When OP’s school said her son was doing “fine” and doesn’t need tutoring it really just meant that: he is doing fine, but not great. OP somehow thought the average student from their school would end up at a TT. So there is mis-communication and mis-match in expectations.

Where are the median and 25-75th percentile students in K-8 going then? If it’s not TT, shouldn’t OP have known? And if the median student doesn’t have a shot at a TT, why spend the money?