Women are AWFUL to each other

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Women (and people) who are insecure can be awful to each other.

People who like themselves and are overall content with with their lives (however imperfect and flawed) learn to stay in their own lane.

I have to keep my older sister at arm's length, too. It sucks. But I'm tired of her projecting her anxiety, disappointment, insecurity, etc that she feels about herself and her own life, onto me. She's done it my entire life.

Emotionally and psychologically healthy people don't gossip. They don't criticize or judge others who aren't hurting them. They're just trying to look straight ahead.


This. My employed mom friends are amazing. Some of the semi or unemployed moms I’ve met have either too little to do and get bored and make drama or are insecure and jealous about trivial unpredictable things. I have been a SAHM so this is not against SAHMs, but I do find working moms are usually too busy and occupied with real problems to make up new ones for entertainment.
Anonymous
I’ve had terrible mom bosses and kind ones. I’m a female boss and try to be kind, but had to let one person who was a poor performer go.

I do believe there are toxic people, both men and women, and of all races. They are in power everywhere.,
Anonymous
This is such a delicate topic for a lot of women. I don’t think that women are inherently untrustworthy from an emotional perspective, but that said, I have been hurt far more deeply by other women than I ever have been by any man.

Thinking of the girl on girl bullying from middle school and high school is still painful. One of them was just up on stage accepting an Oscar a few weeks ago and that brief cutting feeling was still there. I see posts on social media of women getting together for girls trips and reunions with their lifelong friends and I wish I had that too.

So all in all, my experience has led me to be very wary too. But I recognize it’s not the same for every woman. Sometimes your thrown into a tough group at a young age and have to find your way. Other times you establish enduring friendships. Such is life I suppose.
Anonymous
Yes, women are very mean to each other and I also see older women are very bitter and angry inside which is something I usually see less in older men. I am a doctor and handles 2 nursing homes and see this attitude all the time.
Anonymous
why are we even talking about it? This has been known for ages.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The lack of solidarity amongst white women has always baffled me. I read that most white women voted for Trump because they resent other white women who don't support traditional gender norms. Having a career or degree is offensive.

Given that white women are the largest voting bloc in America, we are all at the mercy of this crazy civil war.


Exit polls had just over fifty percent of white women voting for Trump. And early seventy percent of college educated white women DID vote against Trump. So, yeah, probably half voted for Trump, but half also voted against him, and educated white women voted overwhelmingly against Trump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the mindset that all women must support each other based on common gender. Most people are wonderful. Some people are not my cup of tea. Same as it ever was.


I don't think all women need to support each other.

I do think sometimes women are intentionally unkind to each other and that's not necessary either. You can just be neutral. There are definitely women who are actively unkind to other women who aren't their friends, and that's totally uncalled for.

We've all been in that situation where we are with a group of women at work or socially and one of them just wants to rip on some other woman you all know. I refuse to participate in it but it's very disappointing that it's something I've consistently encountered in my life. It had thought that perhaps as women got older, it would dissipate and go away, but it doesn't. Instead the insecurities, and thus the things women compete over and criticize each other for, just evolve.


You need better friends. I'm 47 and can count on one hand the number of times I witnessed this and it was when I was in middle school. It's not hard to see these people for who they are and stay away from them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women (and people) who are insecure can be awful to each other.

People who like themselves and are overall content with with their lives (however imperfect and flawed) learn to stay in their own lane.

I have to keep my older sister at arm's length, too. It sucks. But I'm tired of her projecting her anxiety, disappointment, insecurity, etc that she feels about herself and her own life, onto me. She's done it my entire life.

Emotionally and psychologically healthy people don't gossip. They don't criticize or judge others who aren't hurting them. They're just trying to look straight ahead.


This. My employed mom friends are amazing. Some of the semi or unemployed moms I’ve met have either too little to do and get bored and make drama or are insecure and jealous about trivial unpredictable things. I have been a SAHM so this is not against SAHMs, but I do find working moms are usually too busy and occupied with real problems to make up new ones for entertainment.


The employed moms are just gossiping about people at work
Anonymous
I've told this story before here but my kid's elementary school PTA clique had a hidden FB page to talk sh*t about other moms. Those other moms didn't even know the page existed.

Straight up middle school mean girl stuff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the mindset that all women must support each other based on common gender. Most people are wonderful. Some people are not my cup of tea. Same as it ever was.


I don't think all women need to support each other.

I do think sometimes women are intentionally unkind to each other and that's not necessary either. You can just be neutral. There are definitely women who are actively unkind to other women who aren't their friends, and that's totally uncalled for.

We've all been in that situation where we are with a group of women at work or socially and one of them just wants to rip on some other woman you all know. I refuse to participate in it but it's very disappointing that it's something I've consistently encountered in my life. It had thought that perhaps as women got older, it would dissipate and go away, but it doesn't. Instead the insecurities, and thus the things women compete over and criticize each other for, just evolve.


You need better friends. I'm 47 and can count on one hand the number of times I witnessed this and it was when I was in middle school. It's not hard to see these people for who they are and stay away from them.


I’m 53 and I have pretty much never witnessed a mean group of women in real life. The women I know in my personal and professional life are nothing like this. Sure Ive met some jerks — both men and women — but I’ve never seen this whole mean girl, clique thing since I left high school. And there wasn’t much of it in high school either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the mindset that all women must support each other based on common gender. Most people are wonderful. Some people are not my cup of tea. Same as it ever was.


I don't think all women need to support each other.

I do think sometimes women are intentionally unkind to each other and that's not necessary either. You can just be neutral. There are definitely women who are actively unkind to other women who aren't their friends, and that's totally uncalled for.

We've all been in that situation where we are with a group of women at work or socially and one of them just wants to rip on some other woman you all know. I refuse to participate in it but it's very disappointing that it's something I've consistently encountered in my life. It had thought that perhaps as women got older, it would dissipate and go away, but it doesn't. Instead the insecurities, and thus the things women compete over and criticize each other for, just evolve.


You need better friends. I'm 47 and can count on one hand the number of times I witnessed this and it was when I was in middle school. It's not hard to see these people for who they are and stay away from them.


I’m 53 and I have pretty much never witnessed a mean group of women in real life. The women I know in my personal and professional life are nothing like this. Sure Ive met some jerks — both men and women — but I’ve never seen this whole mean girl, clique thing since I left high school. And there wasn’t much of it in high school either.


newsflasy you are in the mean girl groups
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've told this story before here but my kid's elementary school PTA clique had a hidden FB page to talk sh*t about other moms. Those other moms didn't even know the page existed.

Straight up middle school mean girl stuff.


I sadly believe this.

I want to be one of these posters who has never observed adult women behaving this way. Sadly I have. Starting as a child when watched my mom and aunts gossip like this, and until adulthood encountering colleagues and fellow moms who love talking about, and especially judging, other women. I steer clear of anyone who does this, but I've seen it often in my life.
Anonymous
I don't buy it. Women are WAY more supportive of each other.

If a woman ends up in the hospital, their friends stop by to bring things, give support, etc.

If a man is in the hospital, his friends don't even know about it and if they did, certainly won't make the effort to visit. The only male visitors a man gets is his father if still alive and maybe siblings if they are close. No unrelated males unless gay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't buy it. Women are WAY more supportive of each other.

If a woman ends up in the hospital, their friends stop by to bring things, give support, etc.

If a man is in the hospital, his friends don't even know about it and if they did, certainly won't make the effort to visit. The only male visitors a man gets is his father if still alive and maybe siblings if they are close. No unrelated males unless gay.


Uh, this is not true. Most people are only child sites by family in the hospital anyway. Women included.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the mindset that all women must support each other based on common gender. Most people are wonderful. Some people are not my cup of tea. Same as it ever was.


I don't think all women need to support each other.

I do think sometimes women are intentionally unkind to each other and that's not necessary either. You can just be neutral. There are definitely women who are actively unkind to other women who aren't their friends, and that's totally uncalled for.

We've all been in that situation where we are with a group of women at work or socially and one of them just wants to rip on some other woman you all know. I refuse to participate in it but it's very disappointing that it's something I've consistently encountered in my life. It had thought that perhaps as women got older, it would dissipate and go away, but it doesn't. Instead the insecurities, and thus the things women compete over and criticize each other for, just evolve.


You need better friends. I'm 47 and can count on one hand the number of times I witnessed this and it was when I was in middle school. It's not hard to see these people for who they are and stay away from them.


I’m 53 and I have pretty much never witnessed a mean group of women in real life. The women I know in my personal and professional life are nothing like this. Sure Ive met some jerks — both men and women — but I’ve never seen this whole mean girl, clique thing since I left high school. And there wasn’t much of it in high school either.


I'm 53 also. Graduated HS in 91, college in 95, law school 99.

I saw dozens of instances in each time period and even today I belong to a neighborhood book club that the founding women have gate kept from some new neighbors. I.E- Susie (cute, athletic, communications professional) who moved in last Summer got invited, but Debbie (not cute, not athletic or fashionable, works at the Sheriffs office) didn't get invited when she moved here 4 years ago.
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