Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

Anonymous
Look at any poll, the wild Dem overperformance in special elections (on average over 15 points from 2024) or the historic number of retirements from Congressional GOPers. It's gonna be a bloodbath in November, and they know it. People want Trump accountability and VA redistricting provides a way to do it. Any other interpretation is serious MAGA cope.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look at any poll, the wild Dem overperformance in special elections (on average over 15 points from 2024) or the historic number of retirements from Congressional GOPers. It's gonna be a bloodbath in November, and they know it. People want Trump accountability and VA redistricting provides a way to do it. Any other interpretation is serious MAGA cope.


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Anonymous
Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


You can always trust a lawyer to take an ethical stance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


You can always trust a lawyer to take an ethical stance.


LOL.

I think it is hysterical that pp thinks this will be just temporary. Just one election. Sure. This is a power grab by democrats and there is no way in hell they will willingly give up that power 4 years down the road.

It is also hysterical that pp believes the red states are “over represented.” She no doubt is unaware that blue states were given too many seats following the 2020 census. Nor is she aware of the gerrymandering that has been going on for years in states like Illinois and Massachusetts and New York
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


Democrats in Illinois started this in 2021. Where were you then?
Anonymous
Totally disagree! Gerrymandering on either end is wrong. Vote no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


Democrats in Illinois started this in 2021. Where were you then?

Lies. Illinois could be gerrymandered way worse than it is now.

And this started with the Republicans in 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


Democrats in Illinois started this in 2021. Where were you then?


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


You can always trust a lawyer to take an ethical stance.


LOL.

I think it is hysterical that pp thinks this will be just temporary. Just one election. Sure. This is a power grab by democrats and there is no way in hell they will willingly give up that power 4 years down the road.

It is also hysterical that pp believes the red states are “over represented.” She no doubt is unaware that blue states were given too many seats following the 2020 census. Nor is she aware of the gerrymandering that has been going on for years in states like Illinois and Massachusetts and New York


Democrats have repeatedly proposed banning partisan gerrymandering. Republicans have repeatedly refused to vote for such a measure. I wonder why?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


You can always trust a lawyer to take an ethical stance.


LOL.

I think it is hysterical that pp thinks this will be just temporary. Just one election. Sure. This is a power grab by democrats and there is no way in hell they will willingly give up that power 4 years down the road.

It is also hysterical that pp believes the red states are “over represented.” She no doubt is unaware that blue states were given too many seats following the 2020 census. Nor is she aware of the gerrymandering that has been going on for years in states like Illinois and Massachusetts and New York


DP. How is this a power grab? The Dem states are giving the decision to the voters, the MAGA states are forcing it on their voters.

#facts
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My mailing was a handwritten postcard saying "fight back! vote early! vote yes!"
Seemed real grass roots Virginia.
Postmark was HARTFORD CT.

I did fight back against being a disenfranchised used as cannon fodder.

I voted early.

I voted no.
I


LOL. A MAGA simpleton who doesn't understand that federal elections affect EVERY American. You'd better believe I donate to candidates outside of DC. In fact, I have more sway by doing this since, ya know, DC doesn't have representation. Congressional Virginians definitely affect CT voters.


Gross’s When I started getting postcards from fellow democrats in other states and had them so owing up at my door, it was the beginning of the end of my identification as a democrat. I find this behavior so repulsive. No one outside my state knows what my state needs. I’m very much an independent. I vote Dem or not at all. Even when I vote Dem I find I have to work to stop what they imagine as a mandate from voters (see Tysons casino).

PP, you are a mini version of the orange one.


If I don't know what your state needs, then why does your Senator know what my state needs? See how that works. I'll keep donating to races across the country and writing postcards because I understand this concept. If you don't care about having MAGA in Congress, stay butthurt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last night at dinner I was with a bunch of VA lawyers, government workers, and other professionals. We all feel exactly the same way about this. We instinctively want to vote no, because gerrymandering to align with a party is wrong. However, the world has changed, and since this is for a single election, we are tired of holding ourselves to the higher standard while the other party hasn’t taken the high road in at least ten years. The country is being run by incompetents, and also we haven’t gotten anything passed in years that wasn’t all the democrats aligning with a handful of republicans. We are in a multi-fronted war where the worst kleptocrat we’ve ever seen is being surrounded by grifters and unqualified losers who think destroying democracy is “manly games”. Since this is a temporary measure for the one election, eff Texas, eff the other over-represented red states, and were voting yes with our fingers on our noses.


You can always trust a lawyer to take an ethical stance.


LOL.

I think it is hysterical that pp thinks this will be just temporary. Just one election. Sure. This is a power grab by democrats and there is no way in hell they will willingly give up that power 4 years down the road.

It is also hysterical that pp believes the red states are “over represented.” She no doubt is unaware that blue states were given too many seats following the 2020 census. Nor is she aware of the gerrymandering that has been going on for years in states like Illinois and Massachusetts and New York


DP. How is this a power grab? The Dem states are giving the decision to the voters, the MAGA states are forcing it on their voters.

#facts

+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Spanberger is already updating her resume for her next job (just like Youngkin tried to do after he was inaugurate). I hate Virginia state politics being used on a national platform.

If I vote yes, when I drive from OT to Tysons I think I go through like 4-5 different congressional districts. All politics are ridiculous.


The population between OT and Tysons is like 20x time rest of Virginia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's so funny to see Republicans get so infuriated over the fact that Democrats are finally matching the Republican dirty tricks. Republicans were relying on the fact that Democrats are usually spineless and get outplayed, so the willingness of Democrats to fight back was unexpected.


I’m an independent, but these ARE dirty tricks, no matter who is doing them. And the tricks and propaganda are coming from the left this time. I cannot believe the “restore fairness” wording on the actual official ballot.

This is wrong, no matter who is doing it. Vote no.


shut the F up. creating a mailer with Abigail’s picture telling voters to vote no — how is this even legal??

https://virginiaindependentnews.com/elections/anti-redistricting-pac-mailer-falsely-implies-spanberger-opposes-referendum/
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