Ivy outcomes are often just, well, average

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t the experience itself count more? Why is your education defined by job/career outcomes?

Yes, so many people are missing the intrinsic value of a capella groups, bad weather, squash, & horrendous football.

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Looking at outcomes isn’t the right prism it’s what opportunities were available to them out of college. Some people may choose to work for the government, become a professor/researcher, or work as a teacher while they write their book. It’s whether you’re getting to do what you want that matters not meeting someone else’s definition of success.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever you need to tell yourself.

So true. lol

My kid is thriving, some phenomenal opportunities (internships in Europe), close relationships in his department, suggestions and recommendations for fully funded research (not stem). Club sport captain, in at least 3 other clubs, etc.

I don’t get the point of these posts. Yes- it is kid dependent. You get the motivated and non-motivated at every university.

The connections and network is real though—as are very small class sizes and discussion groups. What you do with any degree after is up to you.

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^ At an Ivy

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Anonymous wrote:I have met multiple ivy degree holders working jobs in high school education, middling research depts, "self employed" scrapping by. Sure there are some high profile ivy leaguers but in the end many end up in same jobs as middling t200 degree holders.

My sister joined the military and there were two others from her class at Wharton who joined the military.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a study years ago that found that most Ivy grads have the same jobs as non-Ivy grads.

My takeaway was that Ivies are worth it if you want to go into a high earning field, but not worth student loans if you're aiming for a regular job. Of course if you get FA then it's worth it regardless of career plans.

For some degrees, you definitely need an Ivy/T10/20. My kid has a summer internship- they noted the Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to move on from your jealousy OP. My kid went to Princeton and graduated with an English Degree. Millionaire by age 30.

She wasn’t a millionaire because she got an English degree from Princeton unless she wrote a bestseller.

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I went to an Ivy but went into public service so we are not rich. But the experience for me was life changing because of meeting so many people with different perspective. I have been pleased with my career. Would I have probably ended up in the same place without an Ivy degree? Yes but the degree has offered me some flexibility to make my own path within the sector I'm working for.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t the experience itself count more? Why is your education defined by job/career outcomes?

Yes, so many people are missing the intrinsic value of a capella groups, bad weather, squash, & horrendous football.

Generous financial assistance is the name of the ivy game. It's hard to find universities as generous.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Yale and deliberately became a high school teacher. On purpose because I wanted to. Yale was fun and I got a good education. And, I got a really fantastic husband. 10 out of 10. Would recommend.

We have a lot of teachers in the Boston area from Harvard. My son had a special ed teacher in elementary school who graduated from Harvard and he was a saint. Brilliant, patient, dedicated, all around amazing. He was made for the job. He made a huge difference in my son’s life and made school a little more bearable for him.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Yale and deliberately became a high school teacher. On purpose because I wanted to. Yale was fun and I got a good education. And, I got a really fantastic husband. 10 out of 10. Would recommend.

We have a lot of teachers in the Boston area from Harvard. My son had a special ed teacher in elementary school who graduated from Harvard and he was a saint. Brilliant, patient, dedicated, all around amazing. He was made for the job. He made a huge difference in my son’s life and made school a little more bearable for him.

This is so amazing. My sister is a kindergarten teacher with an Ivy degree and loves her job.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t the experience itself count more? Why is your education defined by job/career outcomes?

Yes, so many people are missing the intrinsic value of a capella groups, bad weather, squash, & horrendous football.

If you don’t know, then you don’t know…

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This is a weird post. What is your point?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t the experience itself count more? Why is your education defined by job/career outcomes?

Yes, so many people are missing the intrinsic value of a capella groups, bad weather, squash, & horrendous football.

If you don’t know, then you don’t know…

know it don't know it makes no difference for majority of the people. it's a close-gate community.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a weird post. What is your point?

Sunk Cost Fallacy