how many of us did not see close MAGA family members this holiday season?

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Anonymous wrote:I think what the people saying never abandon family under any circumstances are missing is that in many cases these people are being emotionally abusive to their non-MAGA family members. Some of these people are the ones on social media crowing about ‘making libs cry’ and they are taking that to family relationships as well, openly denigrating their children and grandchildren who hold humanistic liberal views, laughing off their federal job losses, openly sneering at their grief over losing immigrant friends and neighbors, refusing outright to put politics aside for the sake of the familial relationship because this is their time now - they had to swallow that n****r Obama sullying the WH and now it’s their turn to bask in the glow of a dictator they’re installed there instead.

Surely if a person’s MAGA family are polite and loving and agree to entirely take politics off the table of discussion at family events and phone calls etc., those MAGA family are not the ones being avoided and going without visits from their children, siblings, grandchildren etc. But there are many (far too many) hateful MAGA who are gleeful about refusing to respect reasonable boundaries to maintain family ties and that, plainly, is ABUSE.

Nobody is obligated to stay in ANY abusive relationship - whether it is parent-child, sibling, marriage, or employment. ABUSE is intolerable and NOBODY should EVER be shamed for walking away from it and caring for their own mental health. NEVER.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not spoken to my 83 and 82 year old parents for 9 months because they are fully in the MAGA cult.
We live in DC and our lives, jobs and income have been personally impacted by this administration.
We did not call them or see them this holiday season for the first time in my 51 years. My brother was the same.

Anyone else? I pretend to not care but it's just awful.

Not even call them? You're a real piece of work.

No not that poster however you are the "real piece of work" and anti American and a traitor and dumb. Fixed it for you.

MAGA has no idea what they have done and the rest of us should not have to be in the same country as those utterly stupid shits.

PP here. I'm not MAGA at all and can't stand Trump. I can promise you though that I loved my parents very much and would never refuse to even call them in their 80s over politics.

Probably because your parents are nice people. There's MAGA, and then there's MAGA. OP's parents are the other kind, who double down and spew hate all the time. I think if you had such parents, you'd have made your peace with holding them at arm's length.

[Anonymous]

Y'all saw your family. All your husband's votes for him and over half of you voted for him as well despite your little phone calls so stfu and deal with what you voted for.

[Anonymous]

OP - your behavior is consistent with what research is showing.
Pretty sad, really. Are you so insecure in your positions that you are fearful of defending them?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - your behavior is consistent with what research is showing.
Pretty sad, really. Are you so insecure in your positions that you are fearful of defending them?

I’m sorry, is this the same party that got all in their feels about people quoting Kirk?

Anyway, yes, you should not support people that support evil. I do a search every time I have to hire a contractor or make a purchase or commit my kids to a team or program to make sure that they no way advocate, associate with, or support maga.

There is no need to debate with the bad guys. That’s a dumb assertion.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - your behavior is consistent with what research is showing.
Pretty sad, really. Are you so insecure in your positions that you are fearful of defending them?

I’m sorry, is this the same party that got all in their feels about people quoting Kirk?

Anyway, yes, you should not support people that support evil. I do a search every time I have to hire a contractor or make a purchase or commit my kids to a team or program to make sure that they no way advocate, associate with, or support maga.

There is no need to debate with the bad guys. That’s a dumb assertion.

The Atlantic is now a MAGA media outlet???

[Anonymous]

OP here. I'm at work and don't have time for a long reply but thank you for those who get it. This is not about my parents voting for Trump or even supporting his policies. They supported him though the first administration and our relationship got through that one without a hitch. However, this time around their devotion has progressed to the point that they believe the pundits on Fox News over their own daughter, son-in-law and son and spent much of early 2025 (when we last regularly talked) telling us that we are the swamp that needs to be drained.They throw the bible, hell, fire and brimstone in our faces in every interaction while supporting policies that are the antithesis to the life that Jesus lived.

I grieve the relationship we once had. I am jealous of people who were born to kind or frankly sane parents. My brother and I had a long conversation about this over Christmas and I learned that he started therapy this fall to process it. I'm begun a search for my own therapist. We're not bad or intolerant people but we've lost our parents to a cult.

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I haven’t spoken to my elderly mom since 2016.

When she needed to go into assisted living, she had a choice between me and my sister, she chose my sister in Texas because she said she was not going to live in my “commie state”

I’ve heard she nearly lost her spot at the facility because she was constantly trying to report the staff there for being “illegals”

She called my sister’s husband “a spic” and she called my husband “a mick” … it was one of her favorite jokes. “Imagine my daughters could have married anyone, and now I’ve got the spic and a mick”

Somehow when I was younger I didn’t totally understand how deeply racist she was until we adopted a girl from China … not in my presence but yes, I did hear that she started to add to her joke, “the spic, the mick and now there’s a chink”

I just had enough of it. By 2016 she was a monster. She’s 89 now (and has claimed to be “dying” for 2.5 decades), is still in a methadone program for her old pill habit … and I’m …. Done.

She can MAGA as hard as she wants to, but I’m no longer part of it. Bye

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PPs criticizing OP - you need to get your heads out of the sand. If you are a kind Republican with decent and humane values, family and friends will not leave you. If you are MAGA supporting hate and cheering on the suffering of others, no one wants to be around you except other MAGAs. And of course more Dems prefer not to hang out with MAGA than visa versa. Why is that hard to understand? It’s pretty clear and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not spoken to my 83 and 82 year old parents for 9 Imonths because they are fully in the MAGA cult.
We live in DC and our lives, jobs and income have been personally impacted by this administration.
We did not call them or see them this holiday season for the first time in my 51 years. My brother was the same.

Anyone else? I pretend to not care but it's just awful.

Not even call them? You're a real piece of work.

No not that poster however you are the "real piece of work" and anti American and a traitor and dumb. Fixed it for you.

MAGA has no idea what they have done and the rest of us should not have to be in the same country as those utterly stupid shits.

PP here. I'm not MAGA at all and can't stand Trump. I can promise you though that I loved my parents very much and would never refuse to even call them in their 80s over politics.

MAGA is not politics. Cutting off MAGA folks is about morality not politics. Do not feel guilty at all.

Keep telling yourself that it's not political and see what the end of life will bring. Trump will be long gone. Families are forever.

Families are not, in fact, forever. They evolve

Absolutely ridiculous to say that you have to keep crazy evil people in your life because they’re either biologically or somehow legally related to you

My family are brain dead evangelical Christians who can’t scrape two nickels together for their mortgage or car payments half the time because they keep opening their pockets to their mega church every week. The kind where their pastor has his own private jet because somehow that shows “glory to God” and it would be “insulting to God” to have the pastor travel on the roads when the sky is “closer to the Lord”

I don’t believe in God or Jesus so if I break the families are forever eternal law … what’s my punishment? Shunning?

I’ve already shunned them, bingo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have not spoken to my 83 and 82 year old parents for 9 months because they are fully in the MAGA cult.
We live in DC and our lives, jobs and income have been personally impacted by this administration.
We did not call them or see them this holiday season for the first time in my 51 years. My brother was the same.

Anyone else? I pretend to not care but it's just awful.

Not even call them? You're a real piece of work.

I got tired of hearing from my mom because she pretty much hates everyone. She had/has no friends.

She hated every one of my friends while I was growing up. I once had a friend come home with me for a Thanksgiving weekend at my mom’s country house (with rich stepdad) and she somehow created this whole thing that weekend where some jewelry she had stored in the bedroom where the friend was staying was “missing” and forever kept bringing it up that my friend was a klepto. She was NOT nice. She was NOT a gracious hostess. She was very snide with my friend, who was wildly uncomfortable.

I lost that friendship because that friend was so weirded out about my mom’s behavior.

Looking back, over decades, my mom always wanted to tell me that she was my only best friend, the “only” person who would “ever TRULY” care about me … but then she’d tear me down all the time.

The weird thing is that she and my dad divorced when I was 6 and she gave my dad full custody. I have no working memory of ever having even lived with her in my lifetime but she somehow still thought I’d be her best friend later.

She is a full-on Trump fan but it’s no longer my problem. She will die and I will shrug.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP - your behavior is consistent with what research is showing.
Pretty sad, really. Are you so insecure in your positions that you are fearful of defending them?

I’m sorry, is this the same party that got all in their feels about people quoting Kirk?

Anyway, yes, you should not support people that support evil. I do a search every time I have to hire a contractor or make a purchase or commit my kids to a team or program to make sure that they no way advocate, associate with, or support maga.

There is no need to debate with the bad guys. That’s a dumb assertion.

The Atlantic is now a MAGA media outlet???

No one criticized the messenger.

I’m saddened that the percentages of people that won’t deal with maga are so low, honestly.

[Anonymous]

I'm saddened for those reared in such dysfuctional homes with unsurprising results regarding relationships. .

[Anonymous]

The love we have for each other trumps politics. Plus we have a firm rule that we NEVER discuss politics and religion.

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Anonymous wrote:The love we have for each other trumps politics. Plus we have a firm rule that we NEVER discuss politics and religion.

+1 Same for our family.