Brigitte Bardot RIP

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that people calling a blatant racist an angel for 48 hours and you deleting rebuttal makes your forum look welcoming to white supremacy.

If you make a welcoming space for people to wax peoric about racists with no rebuttal, you're taking a side. It's not a good look.

Remember the Nazi bar rules you make it welcoming to a certain group, it's going to get hostile to everyone else.

If you think that I am running a Nazi bar you are delusional. The 48 hour rule cuts both ways. When Rob Reiner and his wife were killed, I spent two days dealing with complaints by conservatives that I was removing their posts. Do you really think that fans of Reiner should have had to put up with posters saying that he deserved it? There is very little grace in the world today and all that I ask is that two days go by before every death is treated like a carcass being ripped to shreds by hyenas.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that people calling a blatant racist an angel for 48 hours and you deleting rebuttal makes your forum look welcoming to white supremacy.

If you make a welcoming space for people to wax peoric about racists with no rebuttal, you're taking a side. It's not a good look.

Remember the Nazi bar rules you make it welcoming to a certain group, it's going to get hostile to everyone else.

If you think that I am running a Nazi bar you are delusional. The 48 hour rule cuts both ways. When Rob Reiner and his wife were killed, I spent two days dealing with complaints by conservatives that I was removing their posts. Do you really think that fans of Reiner should have had to put up with posters saying that he deserved it? There is very little grace in the world today and all that I ask is that two days go by before every death is treated like a carcass being ripped to shreds by hyenas.

Every death? Pretty sure you’re on record that there is an exception.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

Okay. Strangely, I think you are shifting this to the issue of abortion? I am sure your opinion of that is valid, and I a pro-abortion personally having had one myself, but honestly, without a deeper discussion of this Bardot family arrangement, it doesn't seem remotely relevant here.

I suggested three alternatives to saying that she abandoned the child. You have chosen to highlight one of them. But, of course, the issue is entirely relevant. She had a child that she didn't want. If she had access to legal abortion, she would not have been forced to have the child. One unfortunate situation led to another unfortunate situation. You just want to ignore the first.

I'm not ignoring anything. I think honestly Jeff you're out of your depth here. Abortion is one thing. Having a baby and giving it up to the father is another. You're not a mother but you are a parent. Just take some time to think it over. Stop attacking me. All I said was that you lacked nuance. And you admitted yourself it was true. I think probably you've got way too many things to manage here. And I respect that. You're a lot better when you're arguing things about politics. Stick to what you know.

This is pretty condescending. Before you didn't want me to moderate my own forum according to my rules and now you apparently don't want me to post on it either. Should I just hand you the passwords and let you take over?

Also, notice that you just wrote "giving it up to the father". Apparently even you are able to find alternatives to "abandon". But, I will grant you your wish. I have no interest in expending any further energy on this discussion. However, I can assure you that despite your desire, I will continue to enforce the rules of this forum, including the 48 hour rule.

I speak as I find. I do apologize if you found me in any way condescending. That was absolutely not my intention. I am a brain tumor patient who in the throes of recovery in 2023 paid $250 to your website during my recovery so that "animated ads" would cease. They did not cease and when I asked for my donation to be refunded, you ignored me. So now, I'm less afraid of critiquing the great and powerful Oz because let's fact it, you can be more than a little disappointing.

Ah. So you have an agenda. You sound absolutely deranged fyi.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:Just a reminder that for several years we have practiced the "48 hour rule" that prohibits negative posts for the first 48 hours after an individual has passed away. Please refrain from negatives posts, even if they are true, until tomorrow.

Okay it's tomorrow so let's recap what got deleted.

Bardot was a vile racist, Islamophobe, and homophobe who was fined 6 times by the French government for inciting racial hatred. She abandoned her son and continued to make cruel statements about hating her child for decades.

She was a garbage person. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Thank you for posting the truth. That 48 hr ban isn't about respect. It simply gives the story a chance to fall to the back page be replaced by other headlines and the truth to be hidden and buried.

As the person who created the rule, I think that I have a better understanding of its intention than you do. I can assure you that you are wrong.

What was your intention?

Because whatever you are intentions are isn't happening in practice. In practice it's being used to cover up terrible behavior and actions.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:Just a reminder that for several years we have practiced the "48 hour rule" that prohibits negative posts for the first 48 hours after an individual has passed away. Please refrain from negatives posts, even if they are true, until tomorrow.

Okay it's tomorrow so let's recap what got deleted.

Bardot was a vile racist, Islamophobe, and homophobe who was fined 6 times by the French government for inciting racial hatred. She abandoned her son and continued to make cruel statements about hating her child for decades.

She was a garbage person. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Thank you for posting the truth. That 48 hr ban isn't about respect. It simply gives the story a chance to fall to the back page be replaced by other headlines and the truth to be hidden and buried.

As the person who created the rule, I think that I have a better understanding of its intention than you do. I can assure you that you are wrong.

What was your intention?

Because whatever you are intentions are isn't happening in practice. In practice it's being used to cover up terrible behavior and actions.

All it is is a 48 hour rule before you go after the dead. It’s been 48 hours so you are now free to speak your mind. Chill out. Bardot wasn’t the worst of the worst anyway.

[Anonymous]

Brigitte wasn't really that racist. She was a french lady in her 90s. In that context, she was progressive.

When we are in our 90s, the youth will be similarly scandalized by our beliefs.

RiP beauty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. She never wanted to become a mother and it appears she discovered she was pregnant too late. She repeatedly said some pretty harsh things re her son for years and IMO that’s just cruel. She gave up custody when they divorced. She didn’t really “abandon” her son as in leave him on someone’s doorstep but she didn’t have any relationship with him, despite his trying to have one with her during his childhood.

What would you call a man who did this to his child? Many would say abandon but not sure why she gets a pass.

She wrote a memoir later in life and just. Oils not stop saying horrible things re being a mother. Her ex husband and her son sued, and won.

Who is giving her a pass over this? Having to wait 48 hours to discuss it in a negative light (because what other light is there?) does not equal a pass when it's a blanket policy that applies to everyone.

[Anonymous]

One of the all-time greats!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Just a reminder that for several years we have practiced the "48 hour rule" that prohibits negative posts for the first 48 hours after an individual has passed away. Please refrain from negatives posts, even if they are true, until tomorrow.

Okay it's tomorrow so let's recap what got deleted.

Bardot was a vile racist, Islamophobe, and homophobe who was fined 6 times by the French government for inciting racial hatred. She abandoned her son and continued to make cruel statements about hating her child for decades.

She was a garbage person. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Thank you for posting the truth. That 48 hr ban isn't about respect. It simply gives the story a chance to fall to the back page be replaced by other headlines and the truth to be hidden and buried.

As the person who created the rule, I think that I have a better understanding of its intention than you do. I can assure you that you are wrong.

What was your intention?

Because whatever you are intentions are isn't happening in practice. In practice it's being used to cover up terrible behavior and actions.

You had decades to create a thread criticizing Bardot. What's your urgency here?

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:Just a reminder that for several years we have practiced the "48 hour rule" that prohibits negative posts for the first 48 hours after an individual has passed away. Please refrain from negatives posts, even if they are true, until tomorrow.

Okay it's tomorrow so let's recap what got deleted.

Bardot was a vile racist, Islamophobe, and homophobe who was fined 6 times by the French government for inciting racial hatred. She abandoned her son and continued to make cruel statements about hating her child for decades.

She was a garbage person. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

That’s just, like, your opinion, man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Just a reminder that for several years we have practiced the "48 hour rule" that prohibits negative posts for the first 48 hours after an individual has passed away. Please refrain from negatives posts, even if they are true, until tomorrow.

Okay it's tomorrow so let's recap what got deleted.

Bardot was a vile racist, Islamophobe, and homophobe who was fined 6 times by the French government for inciting racial hatred. She abandoned her son and continued to make cruel statements about hating her child for decades.

She was a garbage person. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

You were chomping at the bit to post this as soon as you were allowed. Pathetic.

A forum of people fawning over a vile woman is what's pathetic. We need to call racists out. People were literally calling her an angel, which she was not.

We get it, you’re an angel and you don’t like her. Move on with your life.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:Just a reminder that for several years we have practiced the "48 hour rule" that prohibits negative posts for the first 48 hours after an individual has passed away. Please refrain from negatives posts, even if they are true, until tomorrow.

Okay it's tomorrow so let's recap what got deleted.

Bardot was a vile racist, Islamophobe, and homophobe who was fined 6 times by the French government for inciting racial hatred. She abandoned her son and continued to make cruel statements about hating her child for decades.

She was a garbage person. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

You were chomping at the bit to post this as soon as you were allowed. Pathetic.

A forum of people fawning over a vile woman is what's pathetic. We need to call racists out. People were literally calling her an angel, which she was not.

We get it, you’re an angel and you don’t like her. Move on with your life.

+1

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that people calling a blatant racist an angel for 48 hours and you deleting rebuttal makes your forum look welcoming to white supremacy.

If you make a welcoming space for people to wax peoric about racists with no rebuttal, you're taking a side. It's not a good look.

Remember the Nazi bar rules you make it welcoming to a certain group, it's going to get hostile to everyone else.

If you think that I am running a Nazi bar you are delusional. The 48 hour rule cuts both ways. When Rob Reiner and his wife were killed, I spent two days dealing with complaints by conservatives that I was removing their posts. Do you really think that fans of Reiner should have had to put up with posters saying that he deserved it? There is very little grace in the world today and all that I ask is that two days go by before every death is treated like a carcass being ripped to shreds by hyenas.

NP. Yes, it does cut both ways, but I don't know why you waste so much energy of your own energy as a moderator enforcing your arbitrary rule. Newspapers publish obituaries that contain both negative and positive information about the deceased's life as soon as the obituary is available. I am a big fan of Rob Reiner and it wouldn't have made a difference on DCUM to have read posts by someone who hated him, since they'd post the same content after 48 hours anyway. Our own President posted nasty (and false) things about Rob Reiner before 48 hours had passed, and that saddened me far more that no one thought to moderate him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that people calling a blatant racist an angel for 48 hours and you deleting rebuttal makes your forum look welcoming to white supremacy.

If you make a welcoming space for people to wax peoric about racists with no rebuttal, you're taking a side. It's not a good look.

Remember the Nazi bar rules you make it welcoming to a certain group, it's going to get hostile to everyone else.

If you think that I am running a Nazi bar you are delusional. The 48 hour rule cuts both ways. When Rob Reiner and his wife were killed, I spent two days dealing with complaints by conservatives that I was removing their posts. Do you really think that fans of Reiner should have had to put up with posters saying that he deserved it? There is very little grace in the world today and all that I ask is that two days go by before every death is treated like a carcass being ripped to shreds by hyenas.

NP. Yes, it does cut both ways, but I don't know why you waste so much energy of your own energy as a moderator enforcing your arbitrary rule. Newspapers publish obituaries that contain both negative and positive information about the deceased's life as soon as the obituary is available. I am a big fan of Rob Reiner and it wouldn't have made a difference on DCUM to have read posts by someone who hated him, since they'd post the same content after 48 hours anyway. Our own President posted nasty (and false) things about Rob Reiner before 48 hours had passed, and that saddened me far more that no one thought to moderate him.

You seem oddly confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that people calling a blatant racist an angel for 48 hours and you deleting rebuttal makes your forum look welcoming to white supremacy.

If you make a welcoming space for people to wax peoric about racists with no rebuttal, you're taking a side. It's not a good look.

Remember the Nazi bar rules you make it welcoming to a certain group, it's going to get hostile to everyone else.

If you think that I am running a Nazi bar you are delusional. The 48 hour rule cuts both ways. When Rob Reiner and his wife were killed, I spent two days dealing with complaints by conservatives that I was removing their posts. Do you really think that fans of Reiner should have had to put up with posters saying that he deserved it? There is very little grace in the world today and all that I ask is that two days go by before every death is treated like a carcass being ripped to shreds by hyenas.

NP. Yes, it does cut both ways, but I don't know why you waste so much energy of your own energy as a moderator enforcing your arbitrary rule. Newspapers publish obituaries that contain both negative and positive information about the deceased's life as soon as the obituary is available. I am a big fan of Rob Reiner and it wouldn't have made a difference on DCUM to have read posts by someone who hated him, since they'd post the same content after 48 hours anyway. Our own President posted nasty (and false) things about Rob Reiner before 48 hours had passed, and that saddened me far more that no one thought to moderate him.

This. Newspapers don't shy away from covering reality. And the rule has been enforced selectively with terrible speculate about Reiner flying around on this forum. Letting conspiracy run while hiding racism of people like Bardot and Kirk is 100% taking sides.