Brigitte Bardot RIP

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

Okay. Strangely, I think you are shifting this to the issue of abortion? I am sure your opinion of that is valid, and I a pro-abortion personally having had one myself, but honestly, without a deeper discussion of this Bardot family arrangement, it doesn't seem remotely relevant here.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

Okay. Strangely, I think you are shifting this to the issue of abortion? I am sure your opinion of that is valid, and I a pro-abortion personally having had one myself, but honestly, without a deeper discussion of this Bardot family arrangement, it doesn't seem remotely relevant here.

I suggested three alternatives to saying that she abandoned the child. You have chosen to highlight one of them. But, of course, the issue is entirely relevant. She had a child that she didn't want. If she had access to legal abortion, she would not have been forced to have the child. One unfortunate situation led to another unfortunate situation. You just want to ignore the first.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

Okay. Strangely, I think you are shifting this to the issue of abortion? I am sure your opinion of that is valid, and I a pro-abortion personally having had one myself, but honestly, without a deeper discussion of this Bardot family arrangement, it doesn't seem remotely relevant here.

I suggested three alternatives to saying that she abandoned the child. You have chosen to highlight one of them. But, of course, the issue is entirely relevant. She had a child that she didn't want. If she had access to legal abortion, she would not have been forced to have the child. One unfortunate situation led to another unfortunate situation. You just want to ignore the first.

I'm not ignoring anything. I think honestly Jeff you're out of your depth here. Abortion is one thing. Having a baby and giving it up to the father is another. You're not a mother but you are a parent. Just take some time to think it over. Stop attacking me. All I said was that you lacked nuance. And you admitted yourself it was true. I think probably you've got way too many things to manage here. And I respect that. You're a lot better when you're arguing things about politics. Stick to what you know.

[Anonymous]

Brigit Bardot DID have access to legal abortion.
France is not the USA. Thank the lord.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

Okay. Strangely, I think you are shifting this to the issue of abortion? I am sure your opinion of that is valid, and I a pro-abortion personally having had one myself, but honestly, without a deeper discussion of this Bardot family arrangement, it doesn't seem remotely relevant here.

I suggested three alternatives to saying that she abandoned the child. You have chosen to highlight one of them. But, of course, the issue is entirely relevant. She had a child that she didn't want. If she had access to legal abortion, she would not have been forced to have the child. One unfortunate situation led to another unfortunate situation. You just want to ignore the first.

I'm not ignoring anything. I think honestly Jeff you're out of your depth here. Abortion is one thing. Having a baby and giving it up to the father is another. You're not a mother but you are a parent. Just take some time to think it over. Stop attacking me. All I said was that you lacked nuance. And you admitted yourself it was true. I think probably you've got way too many things to manage here. And I respect that. You're a lot better when you're arguing things about politics. Stick to what you know.

This is pretty condescending. Before you didn't want me to moderate my own forum according to my rules and now you apparently don't want me to post on it either. Should I just hand you the passwords and let you take over?

Also, notice that you just wrote "giving it up to the father". Apparently even you are able to find alternatives to "abandon". But, I will grant you your wish. I have no interest in expending any further energy on this discussion. However, I can assure you that despite your desire, I will continue to enforce the rules of this forum, including the 48 hour rule.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Brigit Bardot DID have access to legal abortion.
France is not the USA. Thank the lord.

Wikipedia says that she "sought an abortion; however, abortion was illegal at that time in France".

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blanket rules are just that, blanket. Devoid of any kind of intellectual understanding.

If you can only function under blanket rules you're f'd basically.

Get some minions in to moderate for you.

Better yet, start your own forum and show me how it is done. You are obviously an expert.

It's kind of sad that you have to post these defensive retorts, especially when the criticism aimed at you is spot on.

I guess if you are the one making the criticism, it is not surprising that you consider it to be spot on. Forgive me if I disagree. I think your criticism is petty, inaccurate, and obnoxious. Why was criticizing Brigitte Bardot so important to you that it could not wait 48 hours and what does that say about you?

I didn't criticize her. I stated that she abandoned her son and declared herself not "maternal". This is fact. If you choose to see it as criticism, that's your own limited perspective informing your opinion. Come on Jeff, you're a lot smarter than that.

"Abandoned" has negative connotations. She didn't leave the child on the side of the road. You certainly didn't mean this as praise. But again, what does it say about you that you couldn't wait 48 hours to post this and now, several days later, you are still upset enough to spend your Saturday afternoon posting about it?

What other term does one use when a mother decides not to parent a child? I think "abandoned" is the most accurate term. Let me know if you are aware of a better term, one that you prefer.

There are several alternatives. You could say that the child's father gained full custody. You could say that she allowed her ex-husband to have full custody. You could even suggest that this is an example of the importance of women having bodily autonomy. Had Bardot had bodily autonomy, she would not have been forced to carry the child to term and custody would never have been an issue.

Okay. Strangely, I think you are shifting this to the issue of abortion? I am sure your opinion of that is valid, and I a pro-abortion personally having had one myself, but honestly, without a deeper discussion of this Bardot family arrangement, it doesn't seem remotely relevant here.

I suggested three alternatives to saying that she abandoned the child. You have chosen to highlight one of them. But, of course, the issue is entirely relevant. She had a child that she didn't want. If she had access to legal abortion, she would not have been forced to have the child. One unfortunate situation led to another unfortunate situation. You just want to ignore the first.

I'm not ignoring anything. I think honestly Jeff you're out of your depth here. Abortion is one thing. Having a baby and giving it up to the father is another. You're not a mother but you are a parent. Just take some time to think it over. Stop attacking me. All I said was that you lacked nuance. And you admitted yourself it was true. I think probably you've got way too many things to manage here. And I respect that. You're a lot better when you're arguing things about politics. Stick to what you know.

This is pretty condescending. Before you didn't want me to moderate my own forum according to my rules and now you apparently don't want me to post on it either. Should I just hand you the passwords and let you take over?

Also, notice that you just wrote "giving it up to the father". Apparently even you are able to find alternatives to "abandon". But, I will grant you your wish. I have no interest in expending any further energy on this discussion. However, I can assure you that despite your desire, I will continue to enforce the rules of this forum, including the 48 hour rule.

I speak as I find. I do apologize if you found me in any way condescending. That was absolutely not my intention. I am a brain tumor patient who in the throes of recovery in 2023 paid $250 to your website during my recovery so that "animated ads" would cease. They did not cease and when I asked for my donation to be refunded, you ignored me. So now, I'm less afraid of critiquing the great and powerful Oz because let's fact it, you can be more than a little disappointing.

[Anonymous]

The issue is that people calling a blatant racist an angel for 48 hours and you deleting rebuttal makes your forum look welcoming to white supremacy.

If you make a welcoming space for people to wax peoric about racists with no rebuttal, you're taking a side. It's not a good look.

Remember the Nazi bar rules you make it welcoming to a certain group, it's going to get hostile to everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay say when Roman Polanski dies. Are we really going to ignore the whole rapist thing for 24 hours because people really loved Rosemary's Baby?

It just seems absurd.

Great movie, btw

[Anonymous]

And Jeff you've gone silent, which I notice is what you do when you're critiqued in a way that you simply cannot defend.

That's a great shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Jeff you've gone silent, which I notice is what you do when you're critiqued in a way that you simply cannot defend.

That's a great shame.

Shut up and go away you freaking loser.

[Anonymous]

NP here. She never wanted to become a mother and it appears she discovered she was pregnant too late. She repeatedly said some pretty harsh things re her son for years and IMO that’s just cruel. She gave up custody when they divorced. She didn’t really “abandon” her son as in leave him on someone’s doorstep but she didn’t have any relationship with him, despite his trying to have one with her during his childhood.

What would you call a man who did this to his child? Many would say abandon but not sure why she gets a pass.

She wrote a memoir later in life and just. Oils not stop saying horrible things re being a mother. Her ex husband and her son sued, and won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. She never wanted to become a mother and it appears she discovered she was pregnant too late. She repeatedly said some pretty harsh things re her son for years and IMO that’s just cruel. She gave up custody when they divorced. She didn’t really “abandon” her son as in leave him on someone’s doorstep but she didn’t have any relationship with him, despite his trying to have one with her during his childhood.

What would you call a man who did this to his child? Many would say abandon but not sure why she gets a pass.

She wrote a memoir later in life and just. Oils not stop saying horrible things re being a mother. Her ex husband and her son sued, and won.

I agree that she likely found out too late. Her writing about trying to obtain medication, harming herself and then later attempting suicide post-birth must have been so traumatizing to her son. On top of the fact that she did abandon her son. Maybe he knew those facts before the book was published. If not - oof.