Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?

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Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.

Honestly?

The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.

Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.

The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?

Not in a neighborhood shopping area next to Talbots and across from baskin robbins, a few minutes walk from several residential neighborhoods full of children and close to nearby schools.

Move it to some urban industrial park full of car repair shops or next to a truck port in some isolated rural area 10-20 miles from schools and homes.

Get that trashy strip club and adult video store out of central Springfield, so the residents can have a nicer community, not a seedy trashy strip joint that is packed at 10AM and 2PM.

Put in some nice apartment housing and retail space.

Isn't the Whole Foods right there, too?

Yes.

They are trying to develop that area to make it more functional and to improve the general area.

But as long as the main central landmark of Central Springfield is literally a giant all hours strip club and a separate XXX adult video store within walking distance to several area schools, then there is no amount of development that will make that area liveable.

Now tell me how many vape shops are in that area.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.

Because West Springfield is not Springfield

It is West Springfield. Parks, a golf course, and single family homes on larger lots (for the area)

West Springfield is a part of Springfield…

No, it is not.

They are 2 separate zip codes and 2 separate towns.

They definitely aren't towns. They're all just postal areas in Fairfax County. Fairfax City is a town, so is Falls Church City.

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Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.

Honestly?

The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.

Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.

The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?

Not in a neighborhood shopping area next to Talbots and across from baskin robbins, a few minutes walk from several residential neighborhoods full of children and close to nearby schools.

Move it to some urban industrial park full of car repair shops or next to a truck port in some isolated rural area 10-20 miles from schools and homes.

Get that trashy strip club and adult video store out of central Springfield, so the residents can have a nicer community, not a seedy trashy strip joint that is packed at 10AM and 2PM.

Put in some nice apartment housing and retail space.

Isn't the Whole Foods right there, too?

Yes.

They are trying to develop that area to make it more functional and to improve the general area.

But as long as the main central landmark of Central Springfield is literally a giant all hours strip club and a separate XXX adult video store within walking distance to several area schools, then there is no amount of development that will make that area liveable.

Now tell me how many vape shops are in that area.

And that applies to about the entire country now that retail has died.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

What? You think Chantilly and West Springfield HS are more "in demand" than Langley? Than Mclean? Than TJ lol? Ok. Maybe for everyone with a well-below-DMV-average HHI or something? Because you are making things up, here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

What? You think Chantilly and West Springfield HS are more "in demand" than Langley? Than Mclean? Than TJ lol? Ok. Maybe for everyone with a well-below-DMV-average HHI or something? Because you are making things up, here.

The growth of those two schools over the past 5-10 years, particularly Chantilly, speaks for itself.

They are very much the most in demand high schools in FCPS right now.

[Anonymous]

I believe the adult store is closed now. At least if we’re talking about the video store on Old Keene across from the hotel. Paper Moon needs to go though, such an eyesore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

What? You think Chantilly and West Springfield HS are more "in demand" than Langley? Than Mclean? Than TJ lol? Ok. Maybe for everyone with a well-below-DMV-average HHI or something? Because you are making things up, here.

The growth of those two schools over the past 5-10 years, particularly Chantilly, speaks for itself.

They are very much the most in demand high schools in FCPS right now.

I guess because they are the most affordable of the top high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe the adult store is closed now. At least if we’re talking about the video store on Old Keene across from the hotel. Paper Moon needs to go though, such an eyesore.

I am trying to imagine a youth buying a DVD and figuring out how to play it. Or worse, a physical magazine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe the adult store is closed now. At least if we’re talking about the video store on Old Keene across from the hotel. Paper Moon needs to go though, such an eyesore.

The adult video store moved to the other side of Old Keene Mill, closer to Lewis.

The video store needs to go too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools? Are you kidding me? Lewis? Edison? Some of the very worst!!

Lewis did earn the highest rating of “Distinguished” under Virginia’s new School Performance and Support Framework (SPSF).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools? Are you kidding me? Lewis? Edison? Some of the very worst!!

Lewis did earn the highest rating of “Distinguished” under Virginia’s new School Performance and Support Framework (SPSF).

Sounds like more schools need strip clubs "adjacent" to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

What? You think Chantilly and West Springfield HS are more "in demand" than Langley? Than Mclean? Than TJ lol? Ok. Maybe for everyone with a well-below-DMV-average HHI or something? Because you are making things up, here.

The growth of those two schools over the past 5-10 years, particularly Chantilly, speaks for itself.

They are very much the most in demand high schools in FCPS right now.

Ok ... so by "in demand" you mean they they have grown the most? Ok. Gotcha. That's one way of looking at all of this, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

What? You think Chantilly and West Springfield HS are more "in demand" than Langley? Than Mclean? Than TJ lol? Ok. Maybe for everyone with a well-below-DMV-average HHI or something? Because you are making things up, here.

The growth of those two schools over the past 5-10 years, particularly Chantilly, speaks for itself.

They are very much the most in demand high schools in FCPS right now.

I guess because they are the most affordable of the top high schools.

What’s your point?

Even those “only” making $200k/year deserve a decent education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools? Are you kidding me? Lewis? Edison? Some of the very worst!!

Lewis did earn the highest rating of “Distinguished” under Virginia’s new School Performance and Support Framework (SPSF).

Sounds like more schools need strip clubs "adjacent" to them.

Not sure what that has to do with the school’s rating, but ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools? Are you kidding me? Lewis? Edison? Some of the very worst!!

Lewis did earn the highest rating of “Distinguished” under Virginia’s new School Performance and Support Framework (SPSF).

Sounds like more schools need strip clubs "adjacent" to them.

Not sure what that has to do with the school’s rating, but ok.

Correlation is causation. Lewis' extraordinary rating appears to be a direct result of the strip club adjacency. Other schools that didn't have nearby strip clubs, didn't rate as well. I will need a small grant, preferably in $1 bills, to study this effect more closely.