How will clubs make the school year teams?

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of conversation is crazy. The vast majority of kids will stay in the same grouping.

agree. a low percentage of kids will end up switching teams.

Agreeing that college coaches want players grouped by grade is the first step in the process.

who cares. the cutoff is the cutoff. If an august birthday girl is good enough to play in college, she will be playing "up" anyway.

If you're not planning to play in college why play competitive soccer?

If college coaches want players grouped by grade wouldn't it make sense for clubs to do this as early of an age as possible?

This is logical and makes sense. Why are some (probabaly one person) fighting against it so much?

Its a littles parent that doesnt understand how college recruiting works or its a parent with an August birthday + younger player that wants to play on a grade down team.

Rule of thumb says youngest kids in age group don't get to play in college.They increased probably of quiting soccer then playing another sport.Choosing to be even younger than youngest is not good idea.Thinking about playing in college for your 6 year even worse idea.

If a kid is significantly younger than the 8/1-7/31 eligibility window. Their parents started them early or they skipped a grade.

July is youngest month then June then May. Tough for them.All other months not the youngest will be ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this is at all complicated.

Clubs will have tryouts like usual, and sort the kids into teams like usual.

Its not complicated. Unfortunately with SY a door has been opened for Aug and younger birthdays to play on a grade below them team. Most clubs wont allow this and will put these players on their grade B team if they cant make the A team.

Arlington has this covered as they say - Playing up is a coaching and technical decision based primarily on the player’s skill level, soccer maturity, and overall development needs. While Arlington Soccer allows flexibility in certain cases, playing up is the exception rather than the rule. Each situation is carefully evaluated by the technical staff to ensure it is in the best interest of both the individual player and the team.-

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of conversation is crazy. The vast majority of kids will stay in the same grouping.

agree. a low percentage of kids will end up switching teams.

Agreeing that college coaches want players grouped by grade is the first step in the process.

who cares. the cutoff is the cutoff. If an august birthday girl is good enough to play in college, she will be playing "up" anyway.

If you're not planning to play in college why play competitive soccer?

If college coaches want players grouped by grade wouldn't it make sense for clubs to do this as early of an age as possible?

This is logical and makes sense. Why are some (probabaly one person) fighting against it so much?

Its a littles parent that doesnt understand how college recruiting works or its a parent with an August birthday + younger player that wants to play on a grade down team.

Rule of thumb says youngest kids in age group don't get to play in college.They increased probably of quiting soccer then playing another sport.Choosing to be even younger than youngest is not good idea.Thinking about playing in college for your 6 year even worse idea.

If a kid is significantly younger than the 8/1-7/31 eligibility window. Their parents started them early or they skipped a grade.

July is youngest month then June then May. Tough for them.All other months not the youngest will be ok.

It would actually be the other direction 8/1 to 7/31 then Aug Sept Oct etc

These players skipped a grade or they started early. Either way clubs wont want to cater to the edge cases and will put players on their grade in school A or B team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this is at all complicated.

Clubs will have tryouts like usual, and sort the kids into teams like usual.

Its not complicated. Unfortunately with SY a door has been opened for Aug and younger birthdays to play on a grade below them team. Most clubs wont allow this and will put these players on their grade B team if they cant make the A team.

Arlington has this covered as they say - Playing up is a coaching and technical decision based primarily on the player’s skill level, soccer maturity, and overall development needs. While Arlington Soccer allows flexibility in certain cases, playing up is the exception rather than the rule. Each situation is carefully evaluated by the technical staff to ensure it is in the best interest of both the individual player and the team.-

All this says is the club will choose which team players are placed on. Which means Aug and younger birthdays will either play on their grades A team or their grades B team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this is at all complicated.

Clubs will have tryouts like usual, and sort the kids into teams like usual.

Its not complicated. Unfortunately with SY a door has been opened for Aug and younger birthdays to play on a grade below them team. Most clubs wont allow this and will put these players on their grade B team if they cant make the A team.

Arlington has this covered as they say - Playing up is a coaching and technical decision based primarily on the player’s skill level, soccer maturity, and overall development needs. While Arlington Soccer allows flexibility in certain cases, playing up is the exception rather than the rule. Each situation is carefully evaluated by the technical staff to ensure it is in the best interest of both the individual player and the team.-

All this says is the club will choose which team players are placed on. Which means Aug and younger birthdays will either play on their grades A team or their grades B team.

You didn't read it then, only skill plays up. That's why their sessions are age based not grade.

[Anonymous]

This thread is mislabeled: They are NOT Making School Year Teams. For our area, and many areas around the country, the current system is mis-aligned with the school year by only 3 months. -The new age-bracket will be mis-aligned by 2 months.

The thread should be titles, How will clubs make the new age-bracket teams. -This has nothing to do with school year again.

-If they (US Soccer) really wanted to keep school year aged kids together, they should have allowed set a 1 September or 1 October cut off to accommodate most of the country. They could have at least put it out there as an intent for reasoning. Practically very few parts of the country have a 1 August cut-off for the school year. So why did they align it that way? -It is mis-aligned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amount of conversation is crazy. The vast majority of kids will stay in the same grouping.

agree. a low percentage of kids will end up switching teams.

Agreeing that college coaches want players grouped by grade is the first step in the process.

who cares. the cutoff is the cutoff. If an august birthday girl is good enough to play in college, she will be playing "up" anyway.

If you're not planning to play in college why play competitive soccer?

If college coaches want players grouped by grade wouldn't it make sense for clubs to do this as early of an age as possible?

This is logical and makes sense. Why are some (probabaly one person) fighting against it so much?

Its a littles parent that doesnt understand how college recruiting works or its a parent with an August birthday + younger player that wants to play on a grade down team.

Rule of thumb says youngest kids in age group don't get to play in college.They increased probably of quiting soccer then playing another sport.Choosing to be even younger than youngest is not good idea.Thinking about playing in college for your 6 year even worse idea.

If a kid is significantly younger than the 8/1-7/31 eligibility window. Their parents started them early or they skipped a grade.

July is youngest month then June then May. Tough for them.All other months not the youngest will be ok.

It would actually be the other direction 8/1 to 7/31 then Aug Sept Oct etc

These players skipped a grade or they started early. Either way clubs wont want to cater to the edge cases and will put players on their grade in school A or B team.

July is the youngest month for the age group like December was before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is mislabeled: They are NOT Making School Year Teams. For our area, and many areas around the country, the current system is mis-aligned with the school year by only 3 months. -The new age-bracket will be mis-aligned by 2 months.

The thread should be titles, How will clubs make the new age-bracket teams. -This has nothing to do with school year again.

-If they (US Soccer) really wanted to keep school year aged kids together, they should have allowed set a 1 September or 1 October cut off to accommodate most of the country. They could have at least put it out there as an intent for reasoning. Practically very few parts of the country have a 1 August cut-off for the school year. So why did they align it that way? -It is mis-aligned.

Give it a rest. You understand what they are asking. No need to push an alternative agenda here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is mislabeled: They are NOT Making School Year Teams. For our area, and many areas around the country, the current system is mis-aligned with the school year by only 3 months. -The new age-bracket will be mis-aligned by 2 months.

The thread should be titles, How will clubs make the new age-bracket teams. -This has nothing to do with school year again.

-If they (US Soccer) really wanted to keep school year aged kids together, they should have allowed set a 1 September or 1 October cut off to accommodate most of the country. They could have at least put it out there as an intent for reasoning. Practically very few parts of the country have a 1 August cut-off for the school year. So why did they align it that way? -It is mis-aligned.

Agree 100%

Now you get to fight with the doofus that says everything is determined by date.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington link https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Arlington has proactively had individual discussions with families of current trapped players about this year’s placement and next year’s expected placement after the SY transition. Silence from other clubs.

I think the hardest decisions are kids who fall after 8/1 but would be playing “down” a graduation year.

As a club you'd never do this because it would screw the player up when it comes to recruiting. If they cant make the A team they'd be put on the B team with players their grade.

This doesn’t screw up recruiting. A competent club gets their players committed. You are all so easily tricked.

Put yourself in a college coaches shoes and remember that most programs have 100s of players reaching out to play on their team.

Would you choose players playing on teams that are their grade in school?

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Would you choose players playing on teams that are a grade down from their grade in school?

The problem with playing down a grade is their ability to play against players their grade and older in college comes into question.

People really think the school with a recruiting class of 6 don't know the small pool of players in their selection process?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington link https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Arlington has proactively had individual discussions with families of current trapped players about this year’s placement and next year’s expected placement after the SY transition. Silence from other clubs.

I think the hardest decisions are kids who fall after 8/1 but would be playing “down” a graduation year.

As a club you'd never do this because it would screw the player up when it comes to recruiting. If they cant make the A team they'd be put on the B team with players their grade.

This doesn’t screw up recruiting. A competent club gets their players committed. You are all so easily tricked.

Put yourself in a college coaches shoes and remember that most programs have 100s of players reaching out to play on their team.

Would you choose players playing on teams that are their grade in school?

or

Would you choose players playing on teams that are a grade down from their grade in school?

The problem with playing down a grade is their ability to play against players their grade and older in college comes into question.

People really think the school with a recruiting class of 6 don't know the small pool of players in their selection process?

So you want to double handicap them by playing down grade from the grade that they're enrolled in school?

Get with the program

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this is at all complicated.

Clubs will have tryouts like usual, and sort the kids into teams like usual.

Its not complicated. Unfortunately with SY a door has been opened for Aug and younger birthdays to play on a grade below them team. Most clubs wont allow this and will put these players on their grade B team if they cant make the A team.

Which specific club won't allow children to play in their age group? Sounds suspect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how this is at all complicated.

Clubs will have tryouts like usual, and sort the kids into teams like usual.

Its not complicated. Unfortunately with SY a door has been opened for Aug and younger birthdays to play on a grade below them team. Most clubs wont allow this and will put these players on their grade B team if they cant make the A team.

Which specific club won't allow children to play in their age group? Sounds suspect.

Its not that clubs won't let players play with kids their grade in school.

Its the weasel parents that are looking for ways to play their kid down on a grade below them team.

So then this part is false, "Most clubs wont allow this" because clubs will allow August kids to play on grade. Can you name a club that is doing tryouts by grade instead of age? Seems not.

Why dont you wait and watch how clubs implement rosters.

Theres multiple reasons to group players by eligibility window and grade.

Theres very few reasons to let players play on a grade down team.

[Anonymous]

So many uptight parents stealing the joy of soccer from the kids. Let them play and have fun.

And, trust your club to make the change properly, or, you're at the wrong club. Or, I suppose you could be that one a$$hole parent that makes everyone crazy and they'll be glad to see you leave

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington link https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Arlington has proactively had individual discussions with families of current trapped players about this year’s placement and next year’s expected placement after the SY transition. Silence from other clubs.

I think the hardest decisions are kids who fall after 8/1 but would be playing “down” a graduation year.

As a club you'd never do this because it would screw the player up when it comes to recruiting. If they cant make the A team they'd be put on the B team with players their grade.

Not necessarily for Arlington. In the FAQ:

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.