Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's totally believable. A clean CR would have avoided a shutdown while allowing for negotiations around Democratic political priorities. Instead, blackmail was employed to try to force those priorities through without further negotiation. It's a form of either extortion, or a negotiating tactic, depending on your perspective, but in either case it's attributable to the Democrats.

A clean CR would continue to fund existing programs. What the Republicans are doing doesn't do that. It defunds existing ACA and Medicare programs, and that would hurt millions of Americans.

New poster. Can you elaborate on how it does this? I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I don’t have a “team” here, but I’d heard it was pretty clean, and I’m interested to here the counter to that.

There's no clean CR because of all of the rescissions in the BBB...
Plain and simple...undo BBB and you might be able to get a clean CR....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?

It’s not an opinion.

What’s inconceivable is that half of America is this ignorant and gullible.

"You all are dumb. Vote like me, losers," is not a winning message even if it fulfills your need to bully people. Whenever you see Trump on your screen, remember that part of why he is there is voter disgust at Democratic mean girls.

Do you ever take ANY responsibility for anything in your life?

We’ve tried explaining. We’ve tried compassion. We’ve tried educating. We’ve tried reasoning. You don’t get to make us out to be the bad guy because you’ve fought all of that and now we call you gullible and ignorant.

You voted for this guy a second time after what a giant SOB wrecking ball grifter he was the first time and with decades of evidence that he’s a criminal and rapist. Yes, you are gullible and ignorant and that’s A CHOICE you’re making.

I'm trying to figure out which "side" is more pathetic. Is it the side who nominated someone as awful as Trump in three consecutive times or the side that lost to an opponent as weak as Trump in two of three general elections? Complete dysfunction in every direction you look politically speaking. How people continue to support these awful and pathetic parties is something political scientists will be mulling over for centuries.

History will correctly show, the election was rigged in favor of Trump, and Americans are scared of powerful women, especially powerful black women.

Racist election denier. You should join the MAGA cult.

[Anonymous]

No, Repub's control all 3 branches of the government. This is on them and their dear leader - Trump.

[Anonymous]

While Trunp blames Democrats for the shutdown, he brags that it will let him destroy the government and he and Project 2025 planned.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-past-project-2025-remarks-resurface-as-he-touts-conservative-plan-10819101

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?

It’s not an opinion.

What’s inconceivable is that half of America is this ignorant and gullible.

"You all are dumb. Vote like me, losers," is not a winning message even if it fulfills your need to bully people. Whenever you see Trump on your screen, remember that part of why he is there is voter disgust at Democratic mean girls.

Do you ever take ANY responsibility for anything in your life?

We’ve tried explaining. We’ve tried compassion. We’ve tried educating. We’ve tried reasoning. You don’t get to make us out to be the bad guy because you’ve fought all of that and now we call you gullible and ignorant.

You voted for this guy a second time after what a giant SOB wrecking ball grifter he was the first time and with decades of evidence that he’s a criminal and rapist. Yes, you are gullible and ignorant and that’s A CHOICE you’re making.

I'm trying to figure out which "side" is more pathetic. Is it the side who nominated someone as awful as Trump in three consecutive times or the side that lost to an opponent as weak as Trump in two of three general elections? Complete dysfunction in every direction you look politically speaking. How people continue to support these awful and pathetic parties is something political scientists will be mulling over for centuries.

You should read up on troll farms and disinformation. Because 1) that was a big part of why Trump won and 2) you’re parroting their “both sides” propaganda. Educate yourself.

We have two parties. And you voting for a third party doesn’t help anything. It hurts.

I recommend:

Active Measures
Careless People
Network Propaganda
Attack from Within
Information Wars
How Propaganda Works

Netflix: The Social Dilemma


And:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-long-history-of-russian-disinformation-targeting-the-u-s


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?_r=0

100% to

THE SOCIAL DILEMMA

[Anonymous]

Since the GOP wants to dispense with the federal government altogether and Trump plans to fire Feds and dismantle agencies, why is the GOP “blaming” anyone? Isn’t “no government” the goal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's totally believable. A clean CR would have avoided a shutdown while allowing for negotiations around Democratic political priorities. Instead, blackmail was employed to try to force those priorities through without further negotiation. It's a form of either extortion, or a negotiating tactic, depending on your perspective, but in either case it's attributable to the Democrats.

You should really start with Fox says and also let us know the kool-aid flavor this week.

[Anonymous]

Yup. Proven in black and white - when you scroll down from what @GOP highlighted in yellow it CLEARLY STATES that it does NOT apply to illegal aliens. Republicans are LYING about the reasons for the shutdown. If the Republicans are in the right about all of this then why are they telling PROVEN, UNDISPUTABLE LIES?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.

And the SCOTUS, along with the media. Republicans own it all

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.

To don’t understand politics????


This needs to pass the House, it has.
President needs to sign, he will.

It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass!
Republicans only control 53 seats.


So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!!

Yes vote my way and I don’t need your input. PP, how many times would you sign you name to something you have had no input

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My foxnews loving parents believe everything communicated to them through that news channel...

I had to remind my mom how negotiations typically work- since Republicans hold the majority and only need a few Democrats to vote with them, typically some sort of concession is offered to get those votes to the finish line. Which isn't happening here. And Republicans are being so rigid about it, why should Democrats trust the idea that those would be revisted at a later date?

This right here. It is called governing, and republicans simply don’t know how to do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's totally believable. A clean CR would have avoided a shutdown while allowing for negotiations around Democratic political priorities. Instead, blackmail was employed to try to force those priorities through without further negotiation. It's a form of either extortion, or a negotiating tactic, depending on your perspective, but in either case it's attributable to the Democrats.

A clean CR would continue to fund existing programs. What the Republicans are doing doesn't do that. It defunds existing ACA and Medicare programs, and that would hurt millions of Americans.

New poster. Can you elaborate on how it does this? I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I don’t have a “team” here, but I’d heard it was pretty clean, and I’m interested to here the counter to that.

There's no clean CR because of all of the rescissions in the BBB...
Plain and simple...undo BBB and you might be able to get a clean CR....

Or just undo the filibuster. It's not even in the Constitution. Why was it ok to pass the BBB with 50 votes but they insist on 60 to reopen the government?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup. Proven in black and white - when you scroll down from what @GOP highlighted in yellow it CLEARLY STATES that it does NOT apply to illegal aliens. Republicans are LYING about the reasons for the shutdown. If the Republicans are in the right about all of this then why are they telling PROVEN, UNDISPUTABLE LIES?

Maga do you see this??? This is exactly why you need to actually understand what you see and read. The GOP knows they can show you ONE boogeyman word, and you will be willing to throw it all away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup. Proven in black and white - when you scroll down from what @GOP highlighted in yellow it CLEARLY STATES that it does NOT apply to illegal aliens. Republicans are LYING about the reasons for the shutdown. If the Republicans are in the right about all of this then why are they telling PROVEN, UNDISPUTABLE LIES?

Maga do you see this??? This is exactly why you need to actually understand what you see and read. The GOP knows they can show you ONE boogeyman word, and you will be willing to throw it all away.

That's a great way of putting it. Millions of MAGA and their families will be priced out of health insurance next year because the GOP and their social media disinformation force are lying to them with one word. And it's as easy as that to lead them astray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup. Proven in black and white - when you scroll down from what @GOP highlighted in yellow it CLEARLY STATES that it does NOT apply to illegal aliens. Republicans are LYING about the reasons for the shutdown. If the Republicans are in the right about all of this then why are they telling PROVEN, UNDISPUTABLE LIES?

But that’s about Medicaid. This dung about Medicaid, this is about preserving the enhanced ACA subsidies for those who make too much money for Medicaid. It’s no longer open to DACA, open only until 1-1-26 for legal residents such as refugees, and never no never open for illegal immigrants .