Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban split

[Anonymous]

I really enjoy her acting. She plays brittle and in the edge so well. Maybe it’s how she is in real life, I dunno, but so many of her recent projects are so good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Menopause plus teenagers plus losing parents, all on top of trying to preserve A-list status in a deeply ageist industry. I feel for her, I really do. But also agree she works like a maniac, which was not strictly necessary in her line of work.

All of this.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

[Anonymous]

She's got them crazy eyes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's sad. It's sad when any married couple splits, especially one with children.

Men are not subject to the same criticism, and gaily go about their careers while their wives raise the kids and mommy-track or stay home.

That doesn't mean the men end up with happy home lives. I read several articles about Robert Redford's career after his death. They mentioned that he and his first wife made a joint decision to make Utah their home and raise their kids there, not in Hollywood. But Redford said that the marriage fell apart because he was rarely home.

I don't think there are a heck of lot of men happily married to their first wives in Hollywood.

And yet I don’t see people on here declaring that those male stars don’t have a paternal bone in their bodies. Hmm.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

+1 That is not something to ding her for.

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Anonymous wrote:She doesn’t have a maternal bone in her body.

At least Demi Moore stepped away from Hollywood and took a break to raise her kids for a while.

And her career took a major hit from that decision. Then she was a mess for a while. I would say women like Sandra Bullock and Julia Roberts found more of a middle ground, without sacrificing much. Even Angelina Jolie took pretty long breaks between projects.

And?

Good mothers don’t prioritize sustaining A list celeb status over being present for their kids.

Jolie and Roberts aren’t good people imho. They’ve done some pretty crappy things. Bullock seems like a good human being; she hasn’t dumped her kids on hired help to chase her career.

Nicole seems like she has a lot of issues.

Meryl Streep. An A lister still today She rose to the top of her profession and seemed to be a present and involved parent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

They separated in 2001, and their children were still very young at the time. Years later, she publicly stated they’d chosen not to live with her, but they were under age 10 at the time of the divorce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's sad. It's sad when any married couple splits, especially one with children.

Men are not subject to the same criticism, and gaily go about their careers while their wives raise the kids and mommy-track or stay home.

That doesn't mean the men end up with happy home lives. I read several articles about Robert Redford's career after his death. They mentioned that he and his first wife made a joint decision to make Utah their home and raise their kids there, not in Hollywood. But Redford said that the marriage fell apart because he was rarely home.

I don't think there are a heck of lot of men happily married to their first wives in Hollywood.

Samuel L Jackson, Courtney Vance, Matthew Broderick, Kevin Bacon, Matthew Mcconelhay )sic) are a few.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

DO. She didn’t go to court and fight for custody, more less visitation. Yeah, she abandoned them and used the religion as an excuse to a judge would have granted visitation and she could have nurtured her relationship regardless of Scientology. And if Tom or Scientology had interfered with that relationship, a judge would have given her custody. She didn’t even try.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

They separated in 2001, and their children were still very young at the time. Years later, she publicly stated they’d chosen not to live with her, but they were under age 10 at the time of the divorce.

This particular cult is known for threatening, harassing, and harming people who leave. We will never know what was going on behind the scenes. Their father likely poisoned them against her when she left, and that’s a powerful influence. I don’t know Nicole Kidman and, unlike a lot of people on this thread, I don’t feel like I can judge her as a parent. But I’ve always thought that situation with her other kids was not her doing.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

DO. She didn’t go to court and fight for custody, more less visitation. Yeah, she abandoned them and used the religion as an excuse to a judge would have granted visitation and she could have nurtured her relationship regardless of Scientology. And if Tom or Scientology had interfered with that relationship, a judge would have given her custody. She didn’t even try.

This always did seem odd. Katie Holmes sure managed to keep her kid with Tom Cruise.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

+1 That is not something to ding her for.

Yes it is. I wonder if she would acted differently if she had birthed them. Would she walk away, without a fight, from the children she had with Keith, the way she walked away with the kids she had with Tom.

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Anonymous wrote:For many years into her career I never sensed any true warmth in Nicole Kidman. She can be charming and engaging but true warmth? Not so sure. If you look at older pictures of her she often has a striking, aggressive stare....and she was often not smiling. I think there is an intensity there that she covers over and I actually wonder if this is probably more of who she is. I've also always wondered about her desire to play psychopathic characters, she's played a few. I may get laughed off the board, but I don't think she is quite right. And the announcement coming on a Monday versus a Friday as well as the statement that she did not want this and he left her suggests she may be feeling vindictive.

Right - the fact that she abandoned the children she adopted shows this.

She didn’t abandon them at all. They belong to a creepy cult that taught them from the day they were born that they had to shun anyone who left the cult. That’s very different and heartbreaking.

They separated in 2001, and their children were still very young at the time. Years later, she publicly stated they’d chosen not to live with her, but they were under age 10 at the time of the divorce.

This particular cult is known for threatening, harassing, and harming people who leave. We will never know what was going on behind the scenes. Their father likely poisoned them against her when she left, and that’s a powerful influence. I don’t know Nicole Kidman and, unlike a lot of people on this thread, I don’t feel like I can judge her as a parent. But I’ve always thought that situation with her other kids was not her doing.

So she willingly and knowingly brought those kids into a cult and then walked away without so much as a fight. She didn’t even try.