is RKFJr's "Tylenol(TM) causes autism" just a shakedown for extortion money from the company?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a popular misconception circulating among younger misogynists, who take a kernel of truth (fetal microchimerism) and twist it into “women contain the DNA of every man they’ve ever slept with”. Then that becomes “the sperm alter her DNA”, and then that becomes yet another reason to control and slut-shame women.

It’s terrifyingly easy to get people to believe scientific absurdities.


Nobody is saying that here and I don’t spend time talking to “younger misogynists” so why are you bringing that up? We don’t have to spend our time discussing every fringe comment that has ever been made on the internet. There is no bottom to the ignorance that can be found online but why are you so personally obsessed and wanting to repeat that ignorance here?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a popular misconception circulating among younger misogynists, who take a kernel of truth (fetal microchimerism) and twist it into “women contain the DNA of every man they’ve ever slept with”. Then that becomes “the sperm alter her DNA”, and then that becomes yet another reason to control and slut-shame women.

It’s terrifyingly easy to get people to believe scientific absurdities.


Nobody is saying that here and I don’t spend time talking to “younger misogynists” so why are you bringing that up? We don’t have to spend our time discussing every fringe comment that has ever been made on the internet. There is no bottom to the ignorance that can be found online but why are you so personally obsessed and wanting to repeat that ignorance here?


NP. A large number of people are getting misinformation about health from fringe internet sites, and misinformation is starting to become official CDC policy It’s absolutely worth mentioning.

You seem to be taking this wayyyyyyy too personally.
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There are runs on Tylenol. Get it while you can!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:is RKFJr's "Tylenol(TM) causes autism" just a shakedown for extortion money from the company?

Is that why he's blaming the brand name and not the common name of acetaminophen?


Perhaps because it’s better known in the public consciousness as Tylenol and perhaps because acetaminophen is not its only generic name (there is also paracetamol)?

It’s funny how the anticonspiracy-theorists see a conspiracy behind it every corner.
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Anonymous wrote:is RKFJr's "Tylenol(TM) causes autism" just a shakedown for extortion money from the company?

Is that why he's blaming the brand name and not the common name of acetaminophen?


Perhaps because it’s better known in the public consciousness as Tylenol and perhaps because acetaminophen is not its only generic name (there is also paracetamol)?

It’s funny how the anticonspiracy-theorists see a conspiracy behind it every corner.


There is a Trump brand of acetaminophen coming out that will be pushed by the US government.
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Anonymous wrote:In 1980, autism was 2 per 10,000 births

In 2024, autism is 1 per 12 births

Not a shakedown OP.


Two generations of Western women delaying having children into their mid 30s, then wonder why autism rates skyrocketed.


I had a child in my 30’s who has Level 1 ASD. But there are several relatives in both DH’s extended family and my extended family who would surely have received a similar diagnosis if they were growing up now, and the vast majority of them were born to parents who were in their 20’s. It’s genetic folks.



Absolutely - every serious expert accepts a strong genetic component.

But let's also accept that it is an extremely complex question - even just what genes are involved - and that there may also be some kind of environmental factors.

When an answer is not difinitive, scientific inquiry is OPEN to a variety of possible conclusions. This is one of the absolute worst parts of what RFK does: he makes it seem like the answers are simple instead of extraordinarily complex; like ordinary individuals can make their own determinations instead of needing the assessments and the advice of experts. Destroying our faith not just in doctors, not just in science, but in research and expertise and knowledge -- he is bringing us back to the Middle Ages!

I, for one, am not going. We need to keep following the scientists. If there is a possibility of an environmental factor, let's study it! Let's not say "no" to his every stupid and unfounded "yes." Let's oppose him by supporting the actual researchers who, fortunately, at this point are still doing independent research.


A few scientific truths:

1. Saying something “genetic” does not mean that its heritability is explained primarily through genes.

2. Not all of our genes are expressed. Some genes get “switched on”. It’s called epigentics. Thus, the presence or absence of autism could be 100% controlled through environmental choices and yet genetic. (NB: I am not saying that autism is controllable environmentally; I’m speaking hypothetically.)

3. Something can be correlated with genes and yet not caused by genes. Being president, for instance, is highly linked with having a Y chromosome. The reason is sexism, not genetics.

4. In the context of autism, people think that there is somehow some incongruity between forming a hypothesis and “following the science.” No. The scientific method literally is forming and testing hypotheses. The question is “are the hypotheses any good?” The average layman has absolutely zero background information that could be useful in ascertaining whether any particular hypothesis is good or not.
Anonymous
Trump is going to supercharge this BS with an announcement tomorrow.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/tylenol-and-autism/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He much prefers heroin, himself.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:He much prefers heroin, himself.


+1


What did his mother take to get such a shxtshow like him?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 1980, autism was 2 per 10,000 births

In 2024, autism is 1 per 12 births

Not a shakedown OP.


Now compare the diagnostic criteria at each year. Double dog dare you.

Can you even cite the difference?


Have you ever noticed how many more personality disorders we have now as compared to several hundred years ago?? Clearly an epidemic!


In other news, possessions and witchcraft cases are WAY down.


OMG thank you. I needed a good laugh with all the absolute nonsense going on right now.
Anonymous
Tylenol is about the only medicine that pregnant women have been allowed to take for decades. So that’s like saying tap water causes Autism. Because nearly every woman has taken Tylenol during pregnancy.


Also, studies debunked it.
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Anonymous wrote:He much prefers heroin, himself.


+1


What did his mother take to get such a shxtshow like him?


Seriously, I want to know what pregnant women should stay the heck away from to avoid having a kid who likes hanging out with animal carcasses.

I’m guessing Tylenol is NOT the concern there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Every Trump cabinet pick has one job: to destroy the agency that he/she leads.

Whoever they’re working for, it’s not the American people.



Sad and true.
Anonymous
The MAGA big state at work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tylenol is about the only medicine that pregnant women have been allowed to take for decades. So that’s like saying tap water causes Autism. Because nearly every woman has taken Tylenol during pregnancy.


Also, studies debunked it.


This is an area near and dear to my heart. I am aware that this is not the scientific consensus, but I am aware of no studies that “debunk[]” it. Can you identify them or at least share the basis of your statement?
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