Surprised by the India education-to-job pipeline in my applicant pool

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Anonymous wrote:I work in tech with many Indians, and most are likely H1b status. We have to work many long hours on salary pay. The line of work can be stressful. Recent college grads may find it very difficult to handle the stress, the long hours and long weekend maintenance windows, etc. The Indians I work with never complain and are very dedicated to their work.

Give the American kids a chance.

They are much better employees and much more skilled than you want to tell yourself to excuse passing over them for cheaper options.

Not true. Most are flunking out of the coding and algorithm exams. They just do not know their stuff.

It’s because they don’t cheat as unabashedly as the other ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, been happening for years. DoD contracting less so because of the requirements associated with clearances and being a US citizen. One RFP for a different agency had a requirement for education and degree being from US institutions.

Also have seen where someone else interviews for a position and a different person shows up on day 1 for the job. We now require the candidate to show identification during the interviews (even zoom) to validate identity.

They still use AI to cheat and get answers live. Get with the times and stop hiring from cultures where cheating is normalized

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Anonymous wrote:At one company I consult with (American, very large health insurance third-party administrator you’ve heard of) I’d estimate 50% of their IT staff is Indian. Of those, 10% followed your trajectory and the rest are offshored.

This is everywhere: consulting, banking, even certain government entities.
Haven’t you noticed all the glitchy websites

DP. Yeah, there’s some serious dodgy code coming from the offshore developers. Don’t look under the hood. It’s very scary.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a hiring manager at a large tech company. For two recent software engineering roles, we received over 500 applications in a few week period. What stood out to me was how most of the candidates followed almost the exact same trajectory: undergraduate degree in India, followed by a graduate degree in the U.S. (often at a less selective or lesser-known institution), and then directly into the U.S. job market.

In contrast, only a small fraction of applicants came straight from a U.S. undergraduate program into industry. That imbalance made me pause — are domestic graduates simply not applying, or are they being outnumbered in a way that affects their chances? Is this effectively a backdoor to immigration and a way of pooling cheaper labor? It feels completely unfair and overwhelming, and I can’t believe we’ve ended up in this situation.

I’d be interested to hear if others in recruiting or hiring are seeing the same trend. Is this just the new reality of how the global talent pipeline works, or does it point to a deeper challenge for U.S.-trained undergrads entering tech?

Who is it unfair towards? If the U.S.-born applicants don't exist, they don't exist.

They exist.

They just have to be paid a living wage.

H 1 B candidates get the same wage and they live well on it - so it is a living wage and it has a floor set by US govt, These people also pay taxes, pay into social security, pay into medicare and medicaid. They also do not have family and friends or credit history that allows them to have financial security. But they still manage, Heck, they even pay for their kids college and the big fat Indian weddings later in life.

Why do MAGA people not love their children like this? Why do they expect their children to be independent after 18? Why do MAGA take rent from their kids? Why do they not tutor them to get good grades in school? Why don't they babysit their grandkids? It is just so heart breaking that these are not financial issues but mainly family and social issues. Just heartbreaking.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in tech with many Indians, and most are likely H1b status. We have to work many long hours on salary pay. The line of work can be stressful. Recent college grads may find it very difficult to handle the stress, the long hours and long weekend maintenance windows, etc. The Indians I work with never complain and are very dedicated to their work.

But do they do good work?

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Anonymous wrote:Do a search for the DCUM posts on the H1B program. Also - on the OPT program which is the graduate school to job program.

Many American techies would love to get hired. Oracle just canned a lot of people, as have other high tech corporations. Perhaps your HR department is funneling only the H1B/OPT resumes while holding back resumes from American applicants?

Or maybe there aren't American applicants. Find me a 22 year old that wants to provide tech support for a living.

My kid has 4 talented American citizen friends with computer science degrees who graduated in 2024/25 from reputable programs who would love the opportunity to take a job like that, but they are being passed over.

My kid has 9 American citizen friends with CS degrees graduated in 2024/2025 and they all have jobs. Some of them are working in startups though. All in DMV. . Super high performers.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in tech with many Indians, and most are likely H1b status. We have to work many long hours on salary pay. The line of work can be stressful. Recent college grads may find it very difficult to handle the stress, the long hours and long weekend maintenance windows, etc. The Indians I work with never complain and are very dedicated to their work.

Give the American kids a chance.

They are much better employees and much more skilled than you want to tell yourself to excuse passing over them for cheaper options.

Not true. Most are flunking out of the coding and algorithm exams. They just do not know their stuff.

It’s because they don’t cheat as unabashedly as the other ones

What are you snorting? These tests are conducted by the hiring companies.

Sour grapes for poor genetic examples. Maybe just accept that their intelligence level is low. From Birth. Because Both Parents are InBred Idiots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work in tech with many Indians, and most are likely H1b status. We have to work many long hours on salary pay. The line of work can be stressful. Recent college grads may find it very difficult to handle the stress, the long hours and long weekend maintenance windows, etc. The Indians I work with never complain and are very dedicated to their work.

But do they do good work?

Yes. They are keeping American tech industry afloat. Otherwise, the rest of the world - China specially would have chewed US and spat it out.

Simply superb, saar!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I lived in South Asia for a few years for work. Ever since, I have been unable to trust anyone with a university degree completed in India: the corruption and dishonesty, complete with the prevalence of the "agents" who proudly and publicly advertise on billboards and social media and signs on their actual office/center doors about the "services" they offer in obtaining fake degrees, fake paperwork, and even fake school transcripts/completion of US university application procedures ruined it for me. It is sooooo easy to buy a fake degree in India, or even to get a degree in India you haven't really earned because it is so easy to bribe or otherwise get the grades/certificate you need.

Sure, many people actually have real degrees they earned. But many, many people in India have fake degrees and use these "agents" to fake what htey need to get to the US.

I have no idea why this isn't more widely talked about, but anyone who has lived in India knows it is true.

Yep, this is all you need to know deciding whether to hire someone with an undergrad degree from India