ICE - Face Masks and Warrants

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Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

DP. How is wearing a uniform or continuously displaying a generic badge "advertise your name"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Ironically, the main issue for FBI officers who arrested J6 insurrectionists is not that they were doxed or the victims of violence at the hands of members of the public. It is that they have been targeted by the Trump DOJ itself:

January 20, 2025: Trump grants clemency to nearly 1,500 January 6 defendants.
January 31, 2025: Acting Deputy AG Emil Bove orders the firing of eight senior FBI executives overseeing January 6 investigations.
January 31, 2025: DOJ demands a list of all FBI agents involved in January 6 cases; agents are required to complete questionnaires about their roles.
February 4, 2025: FBI provides details on 5,000–6,000 employees using ID numbers to avoid naming individuals.
February 4, 2025: Two groups of FBI agents file lawsuits to block DOJ from collecting or sharing agent lists, citing retaliation risks; a federal judge issues a temporary restraining order.
February 7, 2025: Trump publicly states intent to fire "corrupt" FBI agents involved in January 6 probes, though no evidence of misconduct is provided.
March 3, 2025: James Dennehy, head of the FBI's New York field office, was forced out after urging agents to resist the Trump administration's demands for names of those who worked on January 6 cases.

PP here. I’m aware of that and it’s maddening. I hatefollow some right wing commentators on X and it seems like the J6-ers are now attempting to target the LEOs and AUSAs involved in their cases now, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

I'm guessing your spouse was not involved in investigating or arresting Jan. 6 rioters. Because LEOs involved with those arrests are being identified and targeted by the DOJ, not by the public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Ironically, the main issue for FBI officers who arrested J6 insurrectionists is not that they were doxed or the victims of violence at the hands of members of the public. It is that they have been targeted by the Trump DOJ itself:

January 20, 2025: Trump grants clemency to nearly 1,500 January 6 defendants.
January 31, 2025: Acting Deputy AG Emil Bove orders the firing of eight senior FBI executives overseeing January 6 investigations.
January 31, 2025: DOJ demands a list of all FBI agents involved in January 6 cases; agents are required to complete questionnaires about their roles.
February 4, 2025: FBI provides details on 5,000–6,000 employees using ID numbers to avoid naming individuals.
February 4, 2025: Two groups of FBI agents file lawsuits to block DOJ from collecting or sharing agent lists, citing retaliation risks; a federal judge issues a temporary restraining order.
February 7, 2025: Trump publicly states intent to fire "corrupt" FBI agents involved in January 6 probes, though no evidence of misconduct is provided.
March 3, 2025: James Dennehy, head of the FBI's New York field office, was forced out after urging agents to resist the Trump administration's demands for names of those who worked on January 6 cases.

PP here. I’m aware of that and it’s maddening. I hatefollow some right wing commentators on X and it seems like the J6-ers are now attempting to target the LEOs and AUSAs involved in their cases now, too.

Yup. This happened recently...

Jan. 6 defendant sentenced to life in prison for plotting to kill FBI special agents who investigated him
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-defendant-sentenced-life-prison-plotting-kill-fbi-special-agents-rcna216526

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

DP. How is wearing a uniform or continuously displaying a generic badge "advertise your name"?

I think we are talking past each other a bit. DH’s agency is a plainclothes agency. It requires him to wear a badge on his hip and a plate carrier with his agency name on it. He has a carrier issued by his agency, but he can wear whatever cargo pants, button up shirt, and sneakers that fit within his agency’s regulations. He can also purchase a different carrier at his own expense, but he still needs to display his agency’s name on it. His clothing identifies him as a cop and identifies his agency, but it isn’t a uniform.

When you say “uniform” I assume you mean like Virginia State Police troopers or MPD officers wear, that includes a patch worn on the chest with their name on it.

[Anonymous]

It’s to protect the agents from cartels and leftist loons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s to protect the agents
from cartels and leftist loons.

The same cartels whose relatives were recently given protected status in the US?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s to protect the agents
from cartels and leftist loons.

The same cartels whose relatives were recently given protected status in the US?

You mean the ones placed in the witness protection program because they just gave the DOJ the very secret and extensive organizational structure of one of the largest cartels south of the border?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

DP. How is wearing a uniform or continuously displaying a generic badge "advertise your name"?

I think we are talking past each other a bit. DH’s agency is a plainclothes agency. It requires him to wear a badge on his hip and a plate carrier with his agency name on it. He has a carrier issued by his agency, but he can wear whatever cargo pants, button up shirt, and sneakers that fit within his agency’s regulations. He can also purchase a different carrier at his own expense, but he still needs to display his agency’s name on it. His clothing identifies him as a cop and identifies his agency, but it isn’t a uniform.

When you say “uniform” I assume you mean like Virginia State Police troopers or MPD officers wear, that includes a patch worn on the chest with their name on it.

Did not know what a plate carrier is. Is this what you mean? https://images.app.goo.gl/6gsnX4Ldn75vzCXN6

Totally agree that your husband’s name should not be displayed but glad to hear that the agency’s name must be and that he has to wear a badge on his hip. However, that does not seem to consistently be the case with ICE agents. They also have seem to have more leeway to wear whatever they want, unlike in your husband’s agency. Case in point the ICE agent at the Albemarle courthouse who was wearing a long ponytail (he’s male) and an untucked shirt worn loosely over jeans.

[Anonymous]

For those that don’t think ICE has “police” I give you the Enforcement and Removal Operations division. When they say they are the police it’s because they are the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s to protect the agents
from cartels and leftist loons.

The same cartels whose relatives were recently given protected status in the US?

You mean the ones placed in the witness protection program because they just gave the DOJ the very secret and extensive organizational structure of one of the largest cartels south of the border?

Grok says there’s no evidence of your claim.

“The statement is partially accurate. Relatives of Sinaloa Cartel members entered the U.S. in May 2025 under a deal, but there's no confirmed evidence they were placed in witness protection or provided the DOJ with the cartel's full organizational structure.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

DP. How is wearing a uniform or continuously displaying a generic badge "advertise your name"?

I think we are talking past each other a bit. DH’s agency is a plainclothes agency. It requires him to wear a badge on his hip and a plate carrier with his agency name on it. He has a carrier issued by his agency, but he can wear whatever cargo pants, button up shirt, and sneakers that fit within his agency’s regulations. He can also purchase a different carrier at his own expense, but he still needs to display his agency’s name on it. His clothing identifies him as a cop and identifies his agency, but it isn’t a uniform.

When you say “uniform” I assume you mean like Virginia State Police troopers or MPD officers wear, that includes a patch worn on the chest with their name on it.

Did not know what a plate carrier is. Is this what you mean? https://images.app.goo.gl/6gsnX4Ldn75vzCXN6

Totally agree that your husband’s name should not be displayed but glad to hear that the agency’s name must be and that he has to wear a badge on his hip. However, that does not seem to consistently be the case with ICE agents. They also have seem to have more leeway to wear whatever they want, unlike in your husband’s agency. Case in point the ICE agent at the Albemarle courthouse who was wearing a long ponytail (he’s male) and an untucked shirt worn loosely over jeans.

The pink untucked shirt was untucked to cover the gun he was carrying on his right hip. To carry his gun he also needs to carry his badge. It was either on his belt or on a chain around his neck.

Plainclothes and undercover police are out and about all over the place. It’s how they catch pedophiles, sex workers, perverts and drug dealers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those that don’t think ICE has “police” I give you the Enforcement and Removal Operations division. When they say they are the police it’s because they are the police.

Then they should dress in a consistent and uniform way that identifies them as such and display some sort of badge and/or agency name. A lot of ICE agents look like Walmart shoppers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s to protect the agents from cartels and leftist loons.

Oh, please, you scaredy cat.

How many members of local, state, or federal law enforcement have been harmed by cartels and loons? Bet you $20.00 the percentage is less than the corresponding percentage for the public at large.

That just means you’re scared of not only your own shadow, but also the non-existent shadow of the boogeyman who’s not even coming after you. How brave!

Thank god we load you up with disability retirement benefits that would choke a horse for such gallant bravery!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.

Yeah, you’re right. ALSO a problem. Let’s fix it.

I don’t agree that’s a problem. I don’t think the FBI agents arresting J6 insurrections or the DUSM tracking down a contract killer should have to plaster their last name on their chest. We can have accountability without opening up law enforcement and their families to violence.

Allowing law enforcement to conceal their identity is a surefire path to corruption and misconduct.

Given that I’m the poster married to the DOJ LEO, I’m thankful that your proposal has exactly zero chance of happening. I appreciate your sincerity, but I’m thankful that my husband doesn’t have to advertise our name when he’s arresting a violent fugitive.

DP. How is wearing a uniform or continuously displaying a generic badge "advertise your name"?

I think we are talking past each other a bit. DH’s agency is a plainclothes agency. It requires him to wear a badge on his hip and a plate carrier with his agency name on it. He has a carrier issued by his agency, but he can wear whatever cargo pants, button up shirt, and sneakers that fit within his agency’s regulations. He can also purchase a different carrier at his own expense, but he still needs to display his agency’s name on it. His clothing identifies him as a cop and identifies his agency, but it isn’t a uniform.

When you say “uniform” I assume you mean like Virginia State Police troopers or MPD officers wear, that includes a patch worn on the chest with their name on it.

Did not know what a plate carrier is. Is this what you mean? https://images.app.goo.gl/6gsnX4Ldn75vzCXN6

Totally agree that your husband’s name should not be displayed but glad to hear that the agency’s name must be and that he has to wear a badge on his hip. However, that does not seem to consistently be the case with ICE agents. They also have seem to have more leeway to wear whatever they want, unlike in your husband’s agency. Case in point the ICE agent at the Albemarle courthouse who was wearing a long ponytail (he’s male) and an untucked shirt worn loosely over jeans.

The pink untucked shirt was untucked to cover the gun he was carrying on his right hip. To carry his gun he also needs to carry his badge. It was either on his belt or on a chain around his neck.

Plainclothes and undercover police are out and about all over the place. It’s how they catch pedophiles, sex workers, perverts and drug dealers.

On your first point, the agent wearing the balaclava and carrying a backpack, had his shirt tucked in so it doesn’t appear that all ICE agents cover their badges with jackets or loose shirts.

On your second point, I think most people understand that the ability to wear plain clothes is vital in certain law-enforcement operations such as drug or prostitution busts. But ICE agents are not conducting undercover operations. For example, when they show up at a workplace and make mass arrests or wait outside a courtroom door to arrest their target, they’re doing so out in the open. What’s the need for subterfuge in those situations?