Stats for Emory/Georgetown?

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Anonymous wrote:Stats are in range for Georgetown if you apply for an easier major, such as nursing or a program in CAS. Emory is a harder admit.

This is flat out wrong. Stats are a maybe for Georgetown, which, no matter which school you apply to, is a much harder admit than Emory. By miles.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Georgetown is a far easier admit from DMV schools, especially private, than it is for the rest of the country. They respect the grading of the local privates and will take unhooked kids squarely in the middle of the class or even below because they know these schools and know how hard they grade. If you're coming from the rest of the US it's a really challenging admission.

While I agree with the first part--they do like the local private school kids--no way they take one not in the top 10%, unless hooked to a major donor or an athlete. Both of those student profiles depress the stat ranges. If your kid is not one of those-and by the way, mine are, so I am not knocking them, they are lucky lucky kids--they will not be admitted to Georgetown unless in the top 5% of their class.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Try unhooked private.

Private schools have a lot of hooked applicants.
Georgetown still requires a very high GPA from an unhooked private kid.
A lot more GPA sensitive than Emory. Believe it or not.

Well GU has lower test scores and is heavily prelaw, so that makes sense

Georgetown has lower test scores for several reasons: athletes (it's a much more athletic school than Emory), hooked students, and truly holistic admissions. Not sure what pre-law has to do with anything. There are basically just a ton of incredibly smart kids in every school at Georgetown, including Gov majors who plan to go to law school, so what's your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is Georgetown a reach if the OPs stats are higher than the median?

The median reflects the hooked admits. Again, not being critical of the hooked kids, but GU does have a bigger percentage of them than some of the other top universities--plus they are truly holistic in their admissions. And it shows in a very diverse, very interesting student population--rather than a group of one-dimensional strivers that schools who put more weight on test scores build.

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Anonymous wrote:Or other schools in that range like Vandy, Rice etc.
DC wants a big city and we would like at least a small scholarship.
3.9UW, 9 AP's all 4's
1480, taking the ACT to see if he can do better
Debate
HCOL public Delaware.

My kid got into GU and Rice last year with a 4.0 unweighted (public school) and 1500 sat. No merit $. (I don't think GU has any to offer?)

What major? And spikes? Niche interests?
OP’s kid doesn’t seem stand out?

OP:
Read this if you want advice!
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeEssays/s/WdoXS7kuIW

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Georgetown is a far easier admit from DMV schools, especially private, than it is for the rest of the country. They respect the grading of the local privates and will take unhooked kids squarely in the middle of the class or even below because they know these schools and know how hard they grade. If you're coming from the rest of the US it's a really challenging admission.

While I agree with the first part--they do like the local private school kids--no way they take one not in the top 10%, unless hooked to a major donor or an athlete. Both of those student profiles depress the stat ranges. If your kid is not one of those-and by the way, mine are, so I am not knocking them, they are lucky lucky kids--they will not be admitted to Georgetown unless in the top 5% of their class.

This is not true at all. DC's private is sending 5 to Georgetown and only one is in the top 20% of the class.

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Anonymous wrote:How is Georgetown a reach if the OPs stats are higher than the median?

The median reflects the hooked admits. Again, not being critical of the hooked kids, but GU does have a bigger percentage of them than some of the other top universities--plus they are truly holistic in their admissions. And it shows in a very diverse, very interesting student population--rather than a group of one-dimensional strivers that schools who put more weight on test scores build.

Total non-sense. This is really misleading. For the unhooked applicants, Georgetown wants true academic elites. High GPA and high test score is a must before you even talk about other stuff! The diverse part is introduced by the hooked.

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Anonymous wrote:Hijack: what is the lowest SAT score you have heard for a Georgetown admit? DD is applying from a feeder private with high GPA, humanities major, but 1400 SAT (670 V 730 M). Any chance at all?

In this case, I would try Columbia, Duke, Vandy, test optional.
The lower end of Georgetown is mainly for hooked applicants. It skews the picture a bit.

Sorry, test optional will not get you in at these schools unless you have a hook.

Test optional will not disadvantage you in application to these schools, that's the whole point of going test optional. Total non-sense in saying test optional automatically gets an unhooked applicant out.

Yes it will, GU is test required, Emory and Rice are 70%+ test submitting. Only Vandy has no disadvantage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stats are in range for Georgetown if you apply for an easier major, such as nursing or a program in CAS. Emory is a harder admit.

This is flat out wrong. Stats are a maybe for Georgetown, which, no matter which school you apply to, is a much harder admit than Emory. By miles.

You think GU nursing is harder to get into than Emory nursing? Emory has higher test scores and a lower acceptance rate. Most students at my DS school prefer Emory as well.

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I feel like someone from Georgetown admissions or someone who has a student there has entered this thread and is intent at making sure we know that it is really.hard.to.get.into and is really.elite.

Yes, it's an incredible school. No, they don't take only the academic elites from DMV privates. They routinely will take kids outside of the top 20%. I have a rising senior and just saw information for unhooked kids from our school and they took a whole range of kids this year---from 3.4 to 3.6 to 3.95.

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Anonymous wrote:Hijack: what is the lowest SAT score you have heard for a Georgetown admit? DD is applying from a feeder private with high GPA, humanities major, but 1400 SAT (670 V 730 M). Any chance at all?

In this case, I would try Columbia, Duke, Vandy, test optional.
The lower end of Georgetown is mainly for hooked applicants. It skews the picture a bit.

Sorry, test optional will not get you in at these schools unless you have a hook.

Test optional will not disadvantage you in application to these schools, that's the whole point of going test optional. Total non-sense in saying test optional automatically gets an unhooked applicant out.

Yes it will, GU is test required, Emory and Rice are 70%+ test submitting. Only Vandy has no disadvantage.

The past 2 yrs Emory has been 39% and 37% test optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like someone from Georgetown admissions or someone who has a student there has entered this thread and is intent at making sure we know that it is really.hard.to.get.into and is really.elite.

Yes, it's an incredible school. No, they don't take only the academic elites from DMV privates. They routinely will take kids outside of the top 20%. I have a rising senior and just saw information for unhooked kids from our school and they took a whole range of kids this year---from 3.4 to 3.6 to 3.95.

If these kids are truly unhooked as you said, there must be a big spike like national awards. Or some DC connection that you don't know about.
You are confusing Tulane with Gtown.

[Anonymous]

When I think of “unhooked” in the GU/Emory context I think of kids (like mine)who are “average excellent” high stats but don’t have the most commonly recognized hooks, no nationally-recognized anything and whose extracurricular involvement has been limited to school/community clubs and school sports where where they’ve contributed and been leaders, but haven’t stood out. My unhooked kid was waitlisted at both.

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Anonymous wrote:Hijack: what is the lowest SAT score you have heard for a Georgetown admit? DD is applying from a feeder private with high GPA, humanities major, but 1400 SAT (670 V 730 M). Any chance at all?

In this case, I would try Columbia, Duke, Vandy, test optional.
The lower end of Georgetown is mainly for hooked applicants. It skews the picture a bit.

Sorry, test optional will not get you in at these schools unless you have a hook.

Test optional will not disadvantage you in application to these schools, that's the whole point of going test optional. Total non-sense in saying test optional automatically gets an unhooked applicant out.

Yes it will, GU is test required, Emory and Rice are 70%+ test submitting. Only Vandy has no disadvantage.

The past 2 yrs Emory has been 39% and 37% test optional.

That has dropped considerably this last cycle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I think of “unhooked” in the GU/Emory context I think of kids (like mine)who are “average excellent” high stats but don’t have the most commonly recognized hooks, no nationally-recognized anything and whose extracurricular involvement has been limited to school/community clubs and school sports where where they’ve contributed and been leaders, but haven’t stood out. My unhooked kid was waitlisted at both.

Emory is the new king of waitlisting, they waitlist more than they accept.