Stats for Emory/Georgetown?

[Anonymous]

My kid (MCPS W) was denied with 3.9 UW and 1450. Humanities major and related ECs with awards; 10 APs with 4s-5s. I went to grad school at G'town, but am not a major donor. Would have been full pay. We knew it was a reach and weren't surprised.

[Anonymous]

With those stats, it would be almost impossible to get into Emory and Rice without a serious hook. And Georgetown would be very unlikely

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Anonymous wrote:Emory and Georgetown are different except for size and both being slightly outside a big city center. The student bodies are different (except for maybe the business and nursing schools), the offerings are different, and the social vibes are different. And Georgetown is still Jesuit while Emory is not affiliated with any church. Georgetown seems to attract more kids wanting a Jesuit school, a bigger sports scene or a higher profile/more international student body(think Crown Prince of Jordan). Emory struck me as very UMC immigrant/Northeast background/Ivy aspirant “striver-ish” and not in any bad way. It’s hard to say that one college’s student body is stronger or more accomplished than the other, when they mostly attract different kinds of applicants.

This is an accurate assessment. Emory has a lot of kids whose Asian immigrant parents want them to go to a top 20 school no matter what. It is filled with these type of striver kids. Also, not in a bad way. Lots of very smart kids at Emory. But Emory is definitely the consolation prize in the college arms race for these families.

Agree wholeheartedly.
Also see a lot of unhappy kids at Emory. Kids looking to transfer at winter break.

You work at Emory or something? How would you know this? Emory retention rate is 96%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1470 SAT, 33 ACT, 8 APs, mostly 5s, 4.0 uw, 4.7 weighted gpa. Not admitted at Georgetown ( oversubscribed major), but admitted to Emory with very good package. Would have been less expensive than UMD. (Going UPenn instead but Emory would have been great too)

Exactly. Georgetown could be a more difficult admit than Penn.

Right? But only a parent or admissions staff believes that, according to earlier poster. Georgetown has fewer applicants, hence the lower acceptance rate. When they go to Common App, that rate is going to plummet to single digits--far lower than Emory's.

[Anonymous]

Emory is seen as the “fall back” or “consolation prize” for many kids who are wanting to attend an Ivy. Sort of like Tufts or Northwestern a generation ago. And it’s so unfortunate. First of all Emory doesn’t have anything in common with the Ivies. It has its own unique combination of things. For a kid who’s interested in pre-med or business, doesn’t care about sports, and would take advantage of Atlanta, it can be a better fit than most of the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Try unhooked private.

Private schools have a lot of hooked applicants.
Georgetown still requires a very high GPA from an unhooked private kid.
A lot more GPA sensitive than Emory. Believe it or not.

No, PP was correct. The kids who went to sidwell and currently at georgetown are all unhooked. They’re also not 4.0s. One is not anywhere close. And yes, some are in SFS

Why do random parents think they know other kids' GPAs? Or any stats at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Emory is seen as the “fall back” or “consolation prize” for many kids who are wanting to attend an Ivy. Sort of like Tufts or Northwestern a generation ago. And it’s so unfortunate. First of all Emory doesn’t have anything in common with the Ivies. It has its own unique combination of things. For a kid who’s interested in pre-med or business, doesn’t care about sports, and would take advantage of Atlanta, it can be a better fit than most of the Ivies.

But Georgetown isn't a fall back? Emory performs better against the ivys for Cross admits that Georgetown. You're replying to yourself in these comments. If Georgetown was so awesome it would have higher test scores despite being test required.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Try unhooked private.

Private schools have a lot of hooked applicants.
Georgetown still requires a very high GPA from an unhooked private kid.
A lot more GPA sensitive than Emory. Believe it or not.

No, PP was correct. The kids who went to sidwell and currently at georgetown are all unhooked. They’re also not 4.0s. One is not anywhere close. And yes, some are in SFS

Why do random parents think they know other kids' GPAs? Or any stats at all?

Well the Cathedral schools publish names of the top 20%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is seen as the “fall back” or “consolation prize” for many kids who are wanting to attend an Ivy. Sort of like Tufts or Northwestern a generation ago. And it’s so unfortunate. First of all Emory doesn’t have anything in common with the Ivies. It has its own unique combination of things. For a kid who’s interested in pre-med or business, doesn’t care about sports, and would take advantage of Atlanta, it can be a better fit than most of the Ivies.

But Georgetown isn't a fall back? Emory performs better against the ivys for Cross admits that Georgetown. You're replying to yourself in these comments. If Georgetown was so awesome it would have higher test scores despite being test required.

Np. I went to Georgetown a million years ago and it was definitely an ivy fallback school back then. I still remember someone selling shirts the first week of school that basically said "Georgetown. Rejection never felt so good."

On a recent tour, I asked the kid why he had picked Georgetown and he said something about it being good for pre-med. Reading between the lines, that answer implied that he didn't get into other schools he might have preferred.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1470 SAT, 33 ACT, 8 APs, mostly 5s, 4.0 uw, 4.7 weighted gpa. Not admitted at Georgetown ( oversubscribed major), but admitted to Emory with very good package. Would have been less expensive than UMD. (Going UPenn instead but Emory would have been great too)

What major at Penn?

He is in CAS and applied with an interest in the PPE major. Not a ton of aid but manageable. We're getting almost half off the sticker price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:1470 SAT, 33 ACT, 8 APs, mostly 5s, 4.0 uw, 4.7 weighted gpa. Not admitted at Georgetown ( oversubscribed major), but admitted to Emory with very good package. Would have been less expensive than UMD. (Going UPenn instead but Emory would have been great too)

What major at Penn?

He is in CAS and applied with an interest in the PPE major. Not a ton of aid but manageable. We're getting almost half off the sticker price.

So, you received need-based aid and we have been talking specifically about merit aid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Try unhooked private.

Private schools have a lot of hooked applicants.
Georgetown still requires a very high GPA from an unhooked private kid.
A lot more GPA sensitive than Emory. Believe it or not.

No, PP was correct. The kids who went to sidwell and currently at georgetown are all unhooked. They’re also not 4.0s. One is not anywhere close. And yes, some are in SFS

Why do random parents think they know other kids' GPAs? Or any stats at all?

Well the Cathedral schools publish names of the top 20%.

Okay, but that PP said Sidwell and went as far as saying one's kid "wasn't even close" to a 4.0. Unless it's their own kid, why would they know it? The answer: they don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, he has a 3.92 UW, 4.7W GPA. Nothing low about it. Also he's retaking the SAT this month and next, 780 math, 700 reading so he can superscore higher.

Georgetown wants top of the class. What is OP's ranking in school?
Georgetown is highly GPA sensitive. 3.92 is good for many schools, falls short for Georgetown. You really need 4.0 uw to have a chance.
Forget about merit.

Not true at our private.

Try unhooked private.

Private schools have a lot of hooked applicants.
Georgetown still requires a very high GPA from an unhooked private kid.
A lot more GPA sensitive than Emory. Believe it or not.

No, PP was correct. The kids who went to sidwell and currently at georgetown are all unhooked. They’re also not 4.0s. One is not anywhere close. And yes, some are in SFS

Why do random parents think they know other kids' GPAs? Or any stats at all?

Well the Cathedral schools publish names of the top 20%.

Okay, but that PP said Sidwell and went as far as saying one's kid "wasn't even close" to a 4.0. Unless it's their own kid, why would they know it? The answer: they don't.

Navinance. GPA and test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Emory and Georgetown are different except for size and both being slightly outside a big city center. The student bodies are different (except for maybe the business and nursing schools), the offerings are different, and the social vibes are different. And Georgetown is still Jesuit while Emory is not affiliated with any church. Georgetown seems to attract more kids wanting a Jesuit school, a bigger sports scene or a higher profile/more international student body(think Crown Prince of Jordan). Emory struck me as very UMC immigrant/Northeast background/Ivy aspirant “striver-ish” and not in any bad way. It’s hard to say that one college’s student body is stronger or more accomplished than the other, when they mostly attract different kinds of applicants.

This is an accurate assessment. Emory has a lot of kids whose Asian immigrant parents want them to go to a top 20 school no matter what. It is filled with these type of striver kids. Also, not in a bad way. Lots of very smart kids at Emory. But Emory is definitely the consolation prize in the college arms race for these families.

Agree wholeheartedly.
Also see a lot of unhappy kids at Emory. Kids looking to transfer at winter break.

Meh, every school t10-25 is full of kids who didn't get into an Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Gtown CAS applicant. Unhooked. 3.8UW, 1570 SAT single sitting. High course rigor, private school. Strong ECs, but no national level awards. Solid essays. Rejected.

Naviance suggests Georgetown is very GPA sensitive for unhooked kids.