What will retribution look like in 2029?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be optimistic and assume that MAGA and Republicans are kicked to the curb in 2028, after a disastrous four year run. Traditionally Democrats would "take the high road" and ignore malfeasance in the previous administration in the spirit of bipartisanship. But I would have a hard time seeing fascists like Stephen Miller skate free after trying to undermine the rule of law. What do you think would be an appropriate approach to "de-MAGAing" the US in 2029, and serving justice to those who are currently running amok in the Trump administration?

A raft of legislation severely restricting the power of the Executive and Judicial Branch. End qualified immunity. End civil forfeiture. Enact moderate gun control measures. Take power back on tariffs and military power.

Restore the IRS so that taxes can be collected effectively and rich people can't cheat. Restore the NOAA, EPA, research grants.

Expansion of the House of Representatives. Expansion of the Supreme Court along with legislation preventing GOP from changing it again.

I honestly don't want to see more time-wasting retribution. I want to see a more representative union and a legislature that's not a den of corruption and a rubber stamp for the Executive. Nothing would make me happier than the next Administration to say they are trying their best to represent all Americans and they aren't going to waste precious time and energy on the previous one.

You can't be over 25 years old. Your list is virtually impossible to enact. This is the problem with the Democrats. They have completely unreasonable expectations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you really expecting much from the party that Biden ran into the ground?

And I say this as someone who bundled money for his presidency. There are a couple of gems left in the party but as a whole Dems are useless cowards.

Cowards? No. Out of touch? Yes. They needed to listen to Van Jones.

Van Jones?!

Oh boy. I’m wasting my time even chatting with you about the party’s future strategy. With supporters like you who needs enemies?

He was right on what voters were thinking and feeling. He was spot on.

I suggest you rewatch Van Jones during the CNN election night coverage and the days that followed. He was mystified. He was a beaten man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you really expecting much from the party that Biden ran into the ground?

And I say this as someone who bundled money for his presidency. There are a couple of gems left in the party but as a whole Dems are useless cowards.

Cowards? No. Out of touch? Yes. They needed to listen to Van Jones.

Van Jones?!

Oh boy. I’m wasting my time even chatting with you about the party’s future strategy. With supporters like you who needs enemies?

He was right on what voters were thinking and feeling. He was spot on.

I suggest you rewatch Van Jones during the CNN election night coverage and the days that followed. He was mystified. He was a beaten man.

Dejected and upset doesn't equate to mystified. Jones along with Axelrod correctly pointed out the need for Biden to leave the race much sooner than he did. They, along with everyone else paying attention could see how Biden was destroying any hopes of a Dem victory in 2024. No one was "mystified" by the results.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you really expecting much from the party that Biden ran into the ground?

And I say this as someone who bundled money for his presidency. There are a couple of gems left in the party but as a whole Dems are useless cowards.

Cowards? No. Out of touch? Yes. They needed to listen to Van Jones.

Van Jones?!

Oh boy. I’m wasting my time even chatting with you about the party’s future strategy. With supporters like you who needs enemies?

He was right on what voters were thinking and feeling. He was spot on.

I suggest you rewatch Van Jones during the CNN election night coverage and the days that followed. He was mystified. He was a beaten man.

Dejected and upset doesn't equate to mystified. Jones along with Axelrod correctly pointed out the need for Biden to leave the race much sooner than he did. They, along with everyone else paying attention could see how Biden was destroying any hopes of a Dem victory in 2024. No one was "mystified" by the results.

Please watch it again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely nothing

I disagree. Trump made swift judgment and punishment legal and New Age Dems will conduct war crimes trials just like Nuremberg. Remember only trump was given blanket immunity.

Dems won’t. They have zero spine and want to move on from this nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be optimistic and assume that MAGA and Republicans are kicked to the curb in 2028, after a disastrous four year run. Traditionally Democrats would "take the high road" and ignore malfeasance in the previous administration in the spirit of bipartisanship. But I would have a hard time seeing fascists like Stephen Miller skate free after trying to undermine the rule of law. What do you think would be an appropriate approach to "de-MAGAing" the US in 2029, and serving justice to those who are currently running amok in the Trump administration?

A raft of legislation severely restricting the power of the Executive and Judicial Branch. End qualified immunity. End civil forfeiture. Enact moderate gun control measures. Take power back on tariffs and military power.

Restore the IRS so that taxes can be collected effectively and rich people can't cheat. Restore the NOAA, EPA, research grants.

Expansion of the House of Representatives. Expansion of the Supreme Court along with legislation preventing GOP from changing it again.

I honestly don't want to see more time-wasting retribution. I want to see a more representative union and a legislature that's not a den of corruption and a rubber stamp for the Executive. Nothing would make me happier than the next Administration to say they are trying their best to represent all Americans and they aren't going to waste precious time and energy on the previous one.

You can't be over 25 years old. Your list is virtually impossible to enact. This is the problem with the Democrats. They have completely unreasonable expectations.

I am justing to say, remember the plan to make DC multiple states to take control of the Senate and ram through legislation? How did that work out?

[Anonymous]

Gun control is the most important thing. We need to disarm MAGA so they can’t do Jan 6 pt. II.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely nothing

I disagree. Trump made swift judgment and punishment legal and New Age Dems will conduct war crimes trials just like Nuremberg. Remember only trump was given blanket immunity.

Dems won’t. They have zero spine and want to move on from this nightmare.

Worry not. Only 1348 left to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gun control is the most important thing. We need to disarm MAGA so they can’t do Jan 6 pt. II.

Speak for yourself.

Signed a liberal with guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The agencies must be independent of the executive branch. Guardrails must be set up.

What would people be voting for?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control is the most important thing. We need to disarm MAGA so they can’t do Jan 6 pt. II.

Speak for yourself.

Signed a liberal with guns.

In other words:
"Mentally unstable criminals should be allowed to carry guns freely, because even though I am not a mentally unstable criminal, I might be one day." Cool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pp -- though people will be jailed. Bondi, Rubio, DOGE boys.

No, they won't. If the Biden administration had jumped right on prosecuting Trump, we would not be in this situation. Smith took FOREVER to indict Trump, and the cases dragged on and on and on. The same thing will happen when Democrats retake power. They'll be too busy cleaning up the mess left behind by the Trump corruption that they won't have time to prosecute the criminals.

No one thinks Trump is going to be prosecuted again but DOGE ruined hundreds of thousands of families with their incompetence. People are absolutely going to demand something be done about that.

They are already concentrated in highly blue areas. Republicans don’t need those votes.

There are a ton of layoffs going on in red states now that will absolutely make F you votes against the GOP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gun control is the most important thing. We need to disarm MAGA so they can’t do Jan 6 pt. II.

Speak for yourself.

Signed a liberal with guns.

I’m fine with you having guns as long as you promise to kill MAGAs

[Anonymous]

Remember,

The POTUS may have immunity for actions taken in his capacity as president.

That immunity doesn’t apply to his unelected staffers. People allowing themselves to become Trump’s fixers and henchmen will soon learn this the hard way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it wouldn't be "retribution" but rather holding people to account for crimes committed. There is a difference. These are documented, what is happening now, the bribery, the illegal kidnappings, the acting without authority, the illegal firings, etc.

The right is really good at creating bogeymen and 'whatabouting' to project their misdeeds on to others, but at the end of the day, we have to believe that facts and law will win out, even if it is slow.

Ultimately though, I am in the camp that Trump is in office til he dies and there won't be meaningful elections in 2026 or 2028.

I’m not so sure that elections are over. Apart from the blowhards posting here, most Americans are not pleased with Trump’s actions to date. As inflation skyrockets and stuff becomes too expensive or scarce, Americans are going to be angry about the economy. Hard to stay in power on a bad economy.

+1000

Any attempt to manipulate or change election laws to allow Trump to serve as POTUS beyond January 2029 will be met with swift and immediate successful resistance by real Americans which is a number that exceeds 2/3rds majority. We wouldn't tolerate Reagan or Obama attempting to remain in power beyond their term limit and we damn sure won't tolerate it with one of the most unpopular presidents ever.

Nope. Seeing stuff I never thought would happen in my lifetime — I’m not so confident . Dems said stuff like this before and Trump would never get re-elected blah blah blah.

The line keeps getting crossed more egregiously each and every time.