US citizen and his wife detained without explanation after returning from Canada

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t a cell phone search contrary to the fourth amendment?

Yes. They need a warrant for your passcode if you are a US citizen. You have to hand over your phone. And they can hold it for a few days and try to get in without your cooperation. But, they have to give you a receipt and return the phone after a set number of days. And they can ask you to unlock it. And you can say no, they can’t hold you if you do (again, they can hold the phone for a few days though).

But FFS, turn off Face ID/ thumbprint ID at the border and have a robust passcode. Preferably one you have never used before and will never use again.

And noncitizens can be refused entry if they don’t unlock. Honestly, I wouldn’t travel to any country that was routinely making me unlock my phone for them to screen my social media. That’s some North Korean level sh&t. I wouldn’t travel visit us right now. To bad, so sad for small businesses who rely on foreign tourism.

No warrant is needed at a border crossing. US citizenship or not you have to unlock your phone and hand it over. Over spring break many people(US passports) were scrubbing their phone before going through customs. Talk to some of them. They said sign out of all apps, delete the apps, delete all your text history, etc and restart. After US customs people were reloading their phones.

Great time to be an American. If I was a foreigner, green card, etc would not travel outside the US. If you are a foreigner forget about traveling to the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

And you were detained in a cell for HOURS??

Asked and answered. Is reading hard?

They pull a gun on you and ask you to unlock your cell phone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like people on a power trip. I don't like it but this kind of thing has always happened. There's always racial profiling, too. I am not condoning it, just saying that this doesn't register for me on the same level what the administration is doing every day to our democracy, rights, the Constitution, rule of law, etc etc.

Arab-Americans have been going through this for decades (even before Sept 11th).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given his name and background, it's likely he was targeted. I wouldn't be surprised if he had posted something against the state of Israel that got him stopped

Bet one of the pro Israeli groups put him on a list and now CBP are arresting or harassing American citizens for Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given his name and background, it's likely he was targeted. I wouldn't be surprised if he had posted something against the state of Israel that got him stopped

Bet one of the pro Israeli groups put him on a list and now CBP are arresting or harassing American citizens for Israel.

Agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

And you were detained in a cell for HOURS??

Asked and answered. Is reading hard?

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DP. Your original statement was that you were taken to a building for one-hour. Not a cell and not for hours. And not separated from your spouse who was housed in a different cell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Don’t lie. They did not handcuff you and put you in a cell.

We’ve been pulled over at that location before. They searched our car and asked the kids their names. No handcuffs or holding cells were used

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

When you had your secondary inspection, were you detained for several hours? Were you handcuffed and led to a cell? Were your belongings confiscated? Did the officers ask for your smart phone and password?

It was about an hour, they did ask for phone and passwords. Wasn’t handcuffed, but I didn’t act like an ass. I guarantee this guy did.

What kind of questions did they ask you, out of curiosity? Did they explain why they picked you? Did they hold you in a cell? Just want to be prepared since I travel overseas several times a year…

How long we were in Canada, what was the purpose of the trip, did we buy or sell anything, etc. They said it was a random flag. Not a cell, but was in a building.

PP here. I’ve been in the building on the Vermont border. Don’t try to compare that to being in a locked cell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Don’t lie. They did not handcuff you and put you in a cell.

We’ve been pulled over at that location before. They searched our car and asked the kids their names. No handcuffs or holding cells were used

Secondary inspection. Try and keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

And you were detained in a cell for HOURS??

Asked and answered. Is reading hard?

b
DP. Your original statement was that you were taken to a building for one-hour. Not a cell and not for hours. And not separated from your spouse who was housed in a different cell.

I’d assume that’s because I was polite and not a MAGA Lawyer going on about his "rights" without actually knowing them.
This will be another case of liberals not waiting for the facts, then looking stupid when the video comes out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

But it is race based. On a random stop, of which happened to me last year in canada, I was asked a few extra questions. Never asked for my phone and we moved straight on.

I certainly wasn't thrown in a cell like this and the other at least 25 people who came forward in 2017.

We are doing the same stuff under this administration we did back then which is not the same as our random pullovers

Why is it so hard for you to accept?

Because I was stopped in 2014. I was moved to a building, and asked for my phone.

Why is it so hard for you to accept it’s happened for years before Trump?

You’re really exaggerating that “moved to a building” like it was so ominous. And I’m pretty sure you’re lying about them asking for your phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Don’t lie. They did not handcuff you and put you in a cell.

We’ve been pulled over at that location before. They searched our car and asked the kids their names. No handcuffs or holding cells were used

Secondary inspection. Try and keep up.

Just like mine. Secondary inspection. And we went into the building too. I never thought they were doing anything wrong. Handcuffs and a jail cell are very wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t a cell phone search contrary to the fourth amendment?

Yes. They need a warrant for your passcode if you are a US citizen. You have to hand over your phone. And they can hold it for a few days and try to get in without your cooperation. But, they have to give you a receipt and return the phone after a set number of days. And they can ask you to unlock it. And you can say no, they can’t hold you if you do (again, they can hold the phone for a few days though).

But FFS, turn off Face ID/ thumbprint ID at the border and have a robust passcode. Preferably one you have never used before and will never use again.

And noncitizens can be refused entry if they don’t unlock. Honestly, I wouldn’t travel to any country that was routinely making me unlock my phone for them to screen my social media. That’s some North Korean level sh&t. I wouldn’t travel visit us right now. To bad, so sad for small businesses who rely on foreign tourism.

No warrant is needed at a border crossing. US citizenship or not you have to unlock your phone and hand it over. Over spring break many people(US passports) were scrubbing their phone before going through customs. Talk to some of them. They said sign out of all apps, delete the apps, delete all your text history, etc and restart. After US customs people were reloading their phones.

Great time to be an American. If I was a foreigner, green card, etc would not travel outside the US. If you are a foreigner forget about traveling to the US.

You do NOT have to unlock your phone. You do have to turn it over. Turn off biometrics before coming through US immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

But it is race based. On a random stop, of which happened to me last year in canada, I was asked a few extra questions. Never asked for my phone and we moved straight on.

I certainly wasn't thrown in a cell like this and the other at least 25 people who came forward in 2017.

We are doing the same stuff under this administration we did back then which is not the same as our random pullovers

Why is it so hard for you to accept?

Because I was stopped in 2014. I was moved to a building, and asked for my phone.

Why is it so hard for you to accept it’s happened for years before Trump?

You’re really exaggerating that “moved to a building” like it was so ominous. And I’m pretty sure you’re lying about them asking for your phone.

DP. How many different people here need to post that they DO ask for your phone, and post links to prove it’s common? Also "moved to a building" you can’t leave from would freak out most people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

And you were detained in a cell for HOURS??

Asked and answered. Is reading hard?

b
DP. Your original statement was that you were taken to a building for one-hour. Not a cell and not for hours. And not separated from your spouse who was housed in a different cell.

I’d assume that’s because I was polite and not a MAGA Lawyer going on about his "rights" without actually knowing them.
This will be another case of liberals not waiting for the facts, then looking stupid when the video comes out.

Why do you automatically assume he wasn’t polite? We basically only know his name. Are you assuming based on that that he was rude? That’s a pretty big assumption, that he must’ve been rude, and you’ve been saying it from the beginning based on absolutely nothing.

But even if he had been impolite, does that mean someone should be handcuffed, separated from family, and put in a cell for hours? That seems to be your message.