US citizen and his wife detained without explanation after returning from Canada

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The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

When you had your secondary inspection, were you detained for several hours? Were you handcuffed and led to a cell? Were your belongings confiscated? Did the officers ask for your smart phone and password?

Any why do they need access to your phone? To do that they need a search warrant....or are there no more rules in the US to follow since Dumpy took office?
It was about an hour, they did ask for phone and passwords. Wasn’t handcuffed, but I didn’t act like an ass. I guarantee this guy did.

What kind of questions did they ask you, out of curiosity? Did they explain why they picked you? Did they hold you in a cell? Just want to be prepared since I travel overseas several times a year…

Any why do they need access to your phone? To do that they need a search warrant....or are there no more rules in the US to follow since Dumpy took office?

Border Patrol does not need a warrant. As stated this was 2014, before Trump

[Anonymous]

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The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Did you get thrown in jail.

Asked and answered. We were detained in a building. I questioned politely, and they explained politely. I’m sure attitude makes a difference.

I'm sure wearing your trump gear helped too.

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The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

When you had your secondary inspection, were you detained for several hours? Were you handcuffed and led to a cell? Were your belongings confiscated? Did the officers ask for your smart phone and password?

DP. I've seen this previously when traveling. It also happens hundreds of times a day by police. Police can do all of these things if they are legally detaining someone. Supreme Court has already spoken on the issue.

Stop lying. You have to have probable cause. And no you do not have to grant them access to your phone data without a warrant.

No probable cause needed for secondary stop. You don’t have to give them passwords, but they can take your devices.

I know you won’t believe me, so here’s a Laywers page confirming it.

https://hselaw.com/news-and-information/legalcurrents/preparing-for-electronic-device-searches-at-united-states-borders/#:~:text=Know%20your%20rights.,to%20attempt%20to%20unlock%20it.

Dude you were trying to claim that there is no probable cause needed for domestic police arrests. you are clueless.

I said there was no probable cause needed for secondary stop or phone passwords. Reading comprehension hard for you?

Dang you just cannot stop lying even when it’s literally there in print.

You wrote: “Police can do all of these things if they are legally detaining someone”

[Anonymous]

Given his name and background, it's likely he was targeted. I wouldn't be surprised if he had posted something against the state of Israel that got him stopped

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Did you get thrown in jail.

Asked and answered. We were detained in a building. I questioned politely, and they explained politely. I’m sure attitude makes a difference.

I'm sure wearing your trump gear helped too.

You got me. I had Trump gear in 2014.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

When you had your secondary inspection, were you detained for several hours? Were you handcuffed and led to a cell? Were your belongings confiscated? Did the officers ask for your smart phone and password?

Any why do they need access to your phone? To do that they need a search warrant....or are there no more rules in the US to follow since Dumpy took office?
It was about an hour, they did ask for phone and passwords. Wasn’t handcuffed, but I didn’t act like an ass. I guarantee this guy did.

What kind of questions did they ask you, out of curiosity? Did they explain why they picked you? Did they hold you in a cell? Just want to be prepared since I travel overseas several times a year…

Any why do they need access to your phone? To do that they need a search warrant....or are there no more rules in the US to follow since Dumpy took office?

Border Patrol does not need a warrant. As stated this was 2014, before Trump

They can seize your phone and keep it for 5 days. They can't force you to give up a password.

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

When you had your secondary inspection, were you detained for several hours? Were you handcuffed and led to a cell? Were your belongings confiscated? Did the officers ask for your smart phone and password?

DP. I've seen this previously when traveling. It also happens hundreds of times a day by police. Police can do all of these things if they are legally detaining someone. Supreme Court has already spoken on the issue.

Stop lying. You have to have probable cause. And no you do not have to grant them access to your phone data without a warrant.

No probable cause needed for secondary stop. You don’t have to give them passwords, but they can take your devices.

I know you won’t believe me, so here’s a Laywers page confirming it.

https://hselaw.com/news-and-information/legalcurrents/preparing-for-electronic-device-searches-at-united-states-borders/#:~:text=Know%20your%20rights.,to%20attempt%20to%20unlock%20it.

Dude you were trying to claim that there is no probable cause needed for domestic police arrests. you are clueless.

I said there was no probable cause needed for secondary stop or phone passwords. Reading comprehension hard for you?

Dang you just cannot stop lying even when it’s literally there in print.

You wrote: “Police can do all of these things if they are legally detaining someone”

That was a different poster. That’s why they started with DP. Again, don’t just read, try and understand what you read.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

But it is race based. On a random stop, of which happened to me last year in canada, I was asked a few extra questions. Never asked for my phone and we moved straight on.

I certainly wasn't thrown in a cell like this and the other at least 25 people who came forward in 2017.

We are doing the same stuff under this administration we did back then which is not the same as our random pullovers

Why is it so hard for you to accept?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

But it is race based. On a random stop, of which happened to me last year in canada, I was asked a few extra questions. Never asked for my phone and we moved straight on.

I certainly wasn't thrown in a cell like this and the other at least 25 people who came forward in 2017.

We are doing the same stuff under this administration we did back then which is not the same as our random pullovers

Why is it so hard for you to accept?

Because I was stopped in 2014. I was moved to a building, and asked for my phone.

Why is it so hard for you to accept it’s happened for years before Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

But it is race based. On a random stop, of which happened to me last year in canada, I was asked a few extra questions. Never asked for my phone and we moved straight on.

I certainly wasn't thrown in a cell like this and the other at least 25 people who came forward in 2017.

We are doing the same stuff under this administration we did back then which is not the same as our random pullovers

Why is it so hard for you to accept?

Because I was stopped in 2014. I was moved to a building, and asked for my phone.

Why is it so hard for you to accept it’s happened for years before Trump?

No one is saying it hasn't happened. That is a part you're not hearing. But your inability to see the difference between being moved to a different building for additional screening and what happened to these people is mind boggling.

Sometimes, we do just have privilege and it's okay to acknowledge that.

[Anonymous]

Here's an even worse "American citizen getting jailed by ICE story" - maybe we need a separate thread for these as they're becoming more common.

A 19-year-old American citizen, Jose Hermosillo, who was lost in Tucson, and walking near Border Patrol HQ, was arrested for illegally entering the country because he had no identification on him.

They claimed they arrested him in Nogales, near the border, but he says he's never been to Nogales. He spent 10 days locked up before he could get before a judge and convince him he was an American citizen.

His girlfriend’s aunt Grace Layva says she and her family made numerous calls looking for him before they found out he was being detained in the Florence Correctional Center, which Immigration and Customs Enforcement uses to detain people.

Another family member drove to the detention center, about 70 miles northwest of Tucson, but said officials wouldn’t provide any information or release him.

ICE did not respond to a request for comment about the wrongful detention.

The family later provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.

“He did say he was a U.S. citizen, but they didn't believe him,” Layva said. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court and gave that to ICE and the Border Patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”

A magistrate judge in Tucson dismissed his case on Thursday, and family says he was released much later that night.

https://news.azpm.org/p/news-articles/2025/4/18/224512-us-citizen-in-arizona-detained-by-immigration-officials-for-10-days/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's an even worse "American citizen getting jailed by ICE story" - maybe we need a separate thread for these as they're becoming more common.

A 19-year-old American citizen, Jose Hermosillo, who was lost in Tucson, and walking near Border Patrol HQ, was arrested for illegally entering the country because he had no identification on him.

They claimed they arrested him in Nogales, near the border, but he says he's never been to Nogales. He spent 10 days locked up before he could get before a judge and convince him he was an American citizen.

His girlfriend’s aunt Grace Layva says she and her family made numerous calls looking for him before they found out he was being detained in the Florence Correctional Center, which Immigration and Customs Enforcement uses to detain people.

Another family member drove to the detention center, about 70 miles northwest of Tucson, but said officials wouldn’t provide any information or release him.

ICE did not respond to a request for comment about the wrongful detention.

The family later provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.

“He did say he was a U.S. citizen, but they didn't believe him,” Layva said. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court and gave that to ICE and the Border Patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”

A magistrate judge in Tucson dismissed his case on Thursday, and family says he was released much later that night.

https://news.azpm.org/p/news-articles/2025/4/18/224512-us-citizen-in-arizona-detained-by-immigration-officials-for-10-days/

Start carrying your papers with you everywhere I guess. ICE claimed that this American citizen said he entered the country illegally. Sure, Jan.

Arrested for no crime except not having identification. Which is not a crime in America.

But give it a couple minutes. Someone will be here to defend this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

Were you also handcuffed, placed in a cell, and demanded to unlock your cellphone while the agents rummaged through your phone data. If not, STFU you fascist.

Calling me a Facist does not change the fact noting illegal was done here. Educate yourself on the laws before getting offended over something that happens everyday. Mine was in 2014, remind me who was President….

Did you forget you told us that you were not handcuffed and not detained for hours. And you are a fascist for blaming the victim when you make purely speculative assumptions of how the victims reacted towards a fascist state. But of course, you also reminded everyone of your whiteness, so there’s that.

Only to show it’s not race based like you want to assume. You got me, I’m a facist, feel better now?

But it is race based. On a random stop, of which happened to me last year in canada, I was asked a few extra questions. Never asked for my phone and we moved straight on.

I certainly wasn't thrown in a cell like this and the other at least 25 people who came forward in 2017.

We are doing the same stuff under this administration we did back then which is not the same as our random pullovers

Why is it so hard for you to accept?

Because I was stopped in 2014. I was moved to a building, and asked for my phone.

Why is it so hard for you to accept it’s happened for years before Trump?

DP. I think what's different now is that there is evidence that the new administration is using AI to monitor social media for posts seen as supporting Hamas or critical of Israel (more troubling). The program is called “Catch and Revoke” and focuses on non-citizens. But a lot of civil rights groups are concerned that similar tools could be used on US citizens. That's what's different this time around.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like what happened isn’t quite clear with these people. I’ll hold off on making any comments about the case.

I think everyone should take a few moments to learn about your rights when you’re crossing a border. They are not the same as when you’re in the US. If you are going to be traveling internationally, the easiest thing to do is to bring a burner phone.