US citizen and his wife detained without explanation after returning from Canada

[Anonymous]

Why don't they need a warrant for your phone?

[Anonymous]

Don't say anything against the current administration or Israel and you should have nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they need a warrant for your phone?

Because entering the US you give up your rights basically. Until officially admitted you aren't "in" the United States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't say anything against the current administration or Israel and you should have nothing to worry about.

Well, that includes up pretty much everyone on this forum, lol!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

So they put you in a cell and asked you for your phone and passcode?

DP. Asked and answered. Detained in a building and yes, phone and passcode.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't say anything against the current administration or Israel and you should have nothing to worry about.

I will not stop criticizing this administrations. I know my rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't say anything against the current administration or Israel and you should have nothing to worry about.

I will not stop criticizing this administrations. I know my rights.

Now concentrate on spelling

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't say anything against the current administration or Israel and you should have nothing to worry about.

OMG

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t a cell phone search contrary to the fourth amendment?

Only after you enter the US. After you get off the plane and before you leave immigration you really don't have any rights. You are not technically within the United States.

Do you have a citation for this?

Here you go:

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/can-border-agents-search-your-electronic

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

So they put you in a cell and asked you for your phone and passcode?

DP. Asked and answered. Detained in a building and yes, phone and passcode.

A building is not a cell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like what happened isn’t quite clear with these people. I’ll hold off on making any comments about the case.

I think everyone should take a few moments to learn about your rights when you’re crossing a border. They are not the same as when you’re in the US. If you are going to be traveling internationally, the easiest thing to do is to bring a burner phone.

I think that's a great idea but for most of us, who have smartphones with all our info, a burner phone won't replace a smartphone. I'm not aware of any smartphones that are as cheap as a burner cell phone. Does anyone have more info on this?

I have certainly seen people who have a burner and put their cell phone (turned off) in checked luggage. That has its own risks (breakage, lost luggage). And you can still be stopped after you grab your bags. But it does get you through immigration with just a burner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t a cell phone search contrary to the fourth amendment?

Yes. They need a warrant for your passcode if you are a US citizen. You have to hand over your phone. And they can hold it for a few days and try to get in without your cooperation. But, they have to give you a receipt and return the phone after a set number of days. And they can ask you to unlock it. And you can say no, they can’t hold you if you do (again, they can hold the phone for a few days though).

But FFS, turn off Face ID/ thumbprint ID at the border and have a robust passcode. Preferably one you have never used before and will never use again.

And noncitizens can be refused entry if they don’t unlock. Honestly, I wouldn’t travel to any country that was routinely making me unlock my phone for them to screen my social media. That’s some North Korean level sh&t. I wouldn’t travel visit us right now. To bad, so sad for small businesses who rely on foreign tourism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

So they put you in a cell and asked you for your phone and passcode?

DP. Asked and answered. Detained in a building and yes, phone and passcode.

A building is not a cell.

Detention building have cell. Watch to catch a smuggler.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

And you were detained in a cell for HOURS??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article

The traveler’s accusations are blatantly false and sensationalized,” CBP officials said in a statement to CNN affiliate WMUR. “CBP officers acted in accordance with established protocols. Upon arrival at the port of entry, the traveler was appropriately referred to secondary inspection – a routine, lawful process that occurs daily and can apply for any traveler.”

It’s a random stop. I’m as white as can be and had the secondary inspection flagged a few years ago. It’s like the random TSA flag. Not everything is drama.

And you were detained in a cell for HOURS??

Asked and answered. Is reading hard?