Is Rachel Carson dangerous?

Anonymous
OP you are MAgA spreading fear where their is none.

Go back to the hole you climbed out of.

Police reports case search and reality all say you are the problem
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP you are MAgA spreading fear where their is none.

Go back to the hole you climbed out of.

Police reports case search and reality all say you are the problem

What are you talking about about? I didn't bring up any of the past stuff, just several recent posts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


No, where did you get the idea that people assumed your child was in AAP? That wasn’t mentioned even one time. Peopel are sharing about their kids’ experience. I think you’re a troll trying to stir up some kind of drama about Carson. And no one is buying it. Most kids have a wonderful experience at Carson and it’s perfectly safe. Sorry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.


That was never said. I explained that for the most part, the AAP kids aren’t the ones committing major crimes like the assault mentioned (someone obviously brought that up to imply Carson wasn’t safe which is totally bogus). If Carson isn’t safe, it’s bc of some juvenile delinquents that exist at every school. Carson on the whole has much less of these types of kids as it’s a AAP center school. Juvenile delinquents are not in AAP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.


That was never said. I explained that for the most part, the AAP kids aren’t the ones committing major crimes like the assault mentioned (someone obviously brought that up to imply Carson wasn’t safe which is totally bogus). If Carson isn’t safe, it’s bc of some juvenile delinquents that exist at every school. Carson on the whole has much less of these types of kids as it’s a AAP center school. Juvenile delinquents are not in AAP.


+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AAP at middle school has been an absolutely phenomenal experience for my kid. We truly felt like we were in a bubble.


Again, that's why AAP in middle school should not exist. Because of parents like you and your segregated bubble.


What would you suggest? My 170 IQ kid (a Carson student) who went to Princeton would have found regular classes a complete waste of time. She was very sociable and got along with virtually everyone. But she needed to be in at least a modestly challenging academic environment. Go to private school? I come from poverty and was a first generation college student. I was a scholarship D1 athlete who believed in mental toughness and resilience. I believe in public schools, and strain to avoid private schools. By the way I found the teachers at Carson to be excellent and put significant emphasis on character and conduct, driving home that being smart only counts for so much.

One of the economic factors that drives productivity is investing in the top ten percent, as much as it may bother you. I worked a summer in the 80’s at Duke’s Talent Identification Program, back when meritocracies were not discouraged. Yes the middle school kids in the program, shared with Hopkins, were in a bubble that summer, but they flourished. I did sports instruction for them, and received letters from parents that it was the first time they enjoyed PE without any bullying. In this vein your complaints about a bubble ring hollow. Put another way, is it the case your feelings are more important than outcomes?



That's what Honors classes are for, PP. Obviously. How on earth did she manage in high school where Honors and AP classes are available to the general population (gasp!!)?



She took 13 AP courses - 5's in all. Highest PSAT score in the state (from TJ). Not Asian - not pushed. No hovering. No silly DCUM college choice discussions - she could go wherever she wanted without any pressure from me. Just a great student. Honors classes would have been a complete waste of time. I come from a family with no education and poverty, but went to one of the best schools in the country. My kid needed challenge. You simply don't understand unless you have a kid like this. I am sure you were an athlete like I was, but the way out for me from poverty was being an environment where no limits applied. When your own kids went to a Princeton or a like school from honors classes, did they find themselves well prepared?
Anonymous
Nope. Most kids are actually high achieving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nope. Most kids are actually high achieving.


+1. Fighting, vaping, threats, bathroom vandalism are incredibly common at most MS. It’s a rare day when those things don’t happen at certain schools. The schools that are big TJ feeders see much less of it so when it happens it’s more widely discussed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AAP at middle school has been an absolutely phenomenal experience for my kid. We truly felt like we were in a bubble.


Again, that's why AAP in middle school should not exist. Because of parents like you and your segregated bubble.


What would you suggest? My 170 IQ kid (a Carson student) who went to Princeton would have found regular classes a complete waste of time. She was very sociable and got along with virtually everyone. But she needed to be in at least a modestly challenging academic environment. Go to private school? I come from poverty and was a first generation college student. I was a scholarship D1 athlete who believed in mental toughness and resilience. I believe in public schools, and strain to avoid private schools. By the way I found the teachers at Carson to be excellent and put significant emphasis on character and conduct, driving home that being smart only counts for so much.

One of the economic factors that drives productivity is investing in the top ten percent, as much as it may bother you. I worked a summer in the 80’s at Duke’s Talent Identification Program, back when meritocracies were not discouraged. Yes the middle school kids in the program, shared with Hopkins, were in a bubble that summer, but they flourished. I did sports instruction for them, and received letters from parents that it was the first time they enjoyed PE without any bullying. In this vein your complaints about a bubble ring hollow. Put another way, is it the case your feelings are more important than outcomes?



That's what Honors classes are for, PP. Obviously. How on earth did she manage in high school where Honors and AP classes are available to the general population (gasp!!)?



She took 13 AP courses - 5's in all. Highest PSAT score in the state (from TJ). Not Asian - not pushed. No hovering. No silly DCUM college choice discussions - she could go wherever she wanted without any pressure from me. Just a great student. Honors classes would have been a complete waste of time. I come from a family with no education and poverty, but went to one of the best schools in the country. My kid needed challenge. You simply don't understand unless you have a kid like this. I am sure you were an athlete like I was, but the way out for me from poverty was being an environment where no limits applied. When your own kids went to a Princeton or a like school from honors classes, did they find themselves well prepared?


Any child who wants to take an AP class in high school can take them. Even children who aren't AAP can get into TJ.

I'm happy for you and your child that she was so successful, though!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.


That was never said. I explained that for the most part, the AAP kids aren’t the ones committing major crimes like the assault mentioned (someone obviously brought that up to imply Carson wasn’t safe which is totally bogus). If Carson isn’t safe, it’s bc of some juvenile delinquents that exist at every school. Carson on the whole has much less of these types of kids as it’s a AAP center school. Juvenile delinquents are not in AAP.


There are definitely kids who were in AAP who end up arrested as juveniles. Not sure what you're smoking.

Carson's reputation, however, is heavily tied to its being an AAP center that pulls kids from four different HS pyramids. There's a high likelihood AAP centers at the MS level will be abolished or, stated differently, that every MS will have AAP.

When that happens, Carson's reputation will still be better than some neighboring schools but no better than Rocky Run, Franklin or Johnson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.


That was never said. I explained that for the most part, the AAP kids aren’t the ones committing major crimes like the assault mentioned (someone obviously brought that up to imply Carson wasn’t safe which is totally bogus). If Carson isn’t safe, it’s bc of some juvenile delinquents that exist at every school. Carson on the whole has much less of these types of kids as it’s a AAP center school. Juvenile delinquents are not in AAP.


There are definitely kids who were in AAP who end up arrested as juveniles. Not sure what you're smoking.

Carson's reputation, however, is heavily tied to its being an AAP center that pulls kids from four different HS pyramids. There's a high likelihood AAP centers at the MS level will be abolished or, stated differently, that every MS will have AAP.

When that happens, Carson's reputation will still be better than some neighboring schools but no better than Rocky Run, Franklin or Johnson.


Name one. Do you have any sources to back this up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.


That was never said. I explained that for the most part, the AAP kids aren’t the ones committing major crimes like the assault mentioned (someone obviously brought that up to imply Carson wasn’t safe which is totally bogus). If Carson isn’t safe, it’s bc of some juvenile delinquents that exist at every school. Carson on the whole has much less of these types of kids as it’s a AAP center school. Juvenile delinquents are not in AAP.


There are definitely kids who were in AAP who end up arrested as juveniles. Not sure what you're smoking.

Carson's reputation, however, is heavily tied to its being an AAP center that pulls kids from four different HS pyramids. There's a high likelihood AAP centers at the MS level will be abolished or, stated differently, that every MS will have AAP.

When that happens, Carson's reputation will still be better than some neighboring schools but no better than Rocky Run, Franklin or Johnson.


Reading comprehension, my friend. The AAP kids are less likely to be juvenile delinquents. They are not the ones making Carson “unsafe.” Try again.

And no, MS AAP centers are not going away anytime soon. The parents will never let that happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I find it interesting that everyone is assuming my child is AAP. My child is NOT AAP.


Where did you get that idea?

That's literally all people have been talking about "it's fine for AAP", "AAP kids get treated differently because they are in their own program", blah blah


AAP was mentioned once a page for the first three pages. It was not until the fourth page that the AAP talk took off and someone made the comment that AAP kids don’t cause trouble, which is a ridiculous comment.

The first bunch of pages are people saying that Carson is safe and that their kids have not reported anything strange or weird happening. The focus was on the kid on the bus threatening to rape someone, an old rape case that was found in the favor of the school and didn’t happen on school property, and emails about racist language being used. And then yes, it went off the AAP rails.


That was never said. I explained that for the most part, the AAP kids aren’t the ones committing major crimes like the assault mentioned (someone obviously brought that up to imply Carson wasn’t safe which is totally bogus). If Carson isn’t safe, it’s bc of some juvenile delinquents that exist at every school. Carson on the whole has much less of these types of kids as it’s a AAP center school. Juvenile delinquents are not in AAP.


There are definitely kids who were in AAP who end up arrested as juveniles. Not sure what you're smoking.

Carson's reputation, however, is heavily tied to its being an AAP center that pulls kids from four different HS pyramids. There's a high likelihood AAP centers at the MS level will be abolished or, stated differently, that every MS will have AAP.

When that happens, Carson's reputation will still be better than some neighboring schools but no better than Rocky Run, Franklin or Johnson.


Reading comprehension, my friend. The AAP kids are less likely to be juvenile delinquents. They are not the ones making Carson “unsafe.” Try again.

And no, MS AAP centers are not going away anytime soon. The parents will never let that happen.


Why not? There's no reason to have AAP centers in middle school. Every base school can offer AAP classes. Why would parents fight that?

Before I knew better, I sent my oldest to the center. My younger children did AAP through their base middle school. There was zero benefit of attending the center.
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