Fight at Whitman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The statement from Principal Miller is an utter joke. The kids need to be expelled. It was actually savagery to see the way they beat and stomped that kid and even barred other kids from entering the bathroom to try to help

Miller was a terrible assistant principal during his time at Churchill. He's a big supporter of restorative justice. That's what will happen to those that caused the fight. No consequences, no penalties. More fights to come.

That's really disappointing. I went to Whitman in the early 2000s and the principal at the time (can't remember his name) was great and really fair. Pretty much everyone liked him. It's very sad that these plugged in principals that cared about students have been replaced by political activists that dont care at all about the children's safety. It's actually horrifying.

You're thinking of Jerome Marco, the Principal prior to Alan Goodman.

The person who wrote that Miler was a terrible administrator his single year at Churchill is absolutely correct. He was a complete joke who earned little respect from teachers. I know because I am a Churchill teacher.

Yes! It was Jerome Marco. He was awesome, and Alan Goodman was pretty good as well. It's a real shame to see what has happened in not that long of a period of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems like there have been lots of fights at Whitman as of late. Wasn't there another big one within the last couple of months?

Yes, with another thread on DCUM:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1241106.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The statement from Principal Miller is an utter joke. The kids need to be expelled. It was actually savagery to see the way they beat and stomped that kid and even barred other kids from entering the bathroom to try to help

Miller was a terrible assistant principal during his time at Churchill. He's a big supporter of restorative justice. That's what will happen to those that caused the fight. No consequences, no penalties. More fights to come.

That's really disappointing. I went to Whitman in the early 2000s and the principal at the time (can't remember his name) was great and really fair. Pretty much everyone liked him. It's very sad that these plugged in principals that cared about students have been replaced by political activists that dont care at all about the children's safety. It's actually horrifying.

You're thinking of Jerome Marco, the Principal prior to Alan Goodman.

The person who wrote that Miler was a terrible administrator his single year at Churchill is absolutely correct. He was a complete joke who earned little respect from teachers. I know because I am a Churchill teacher.

Yes! It was Jerome Marco. He was awesome, and Alan Goodman was pretty good as well. It's a real shame to see what has happened in not that long of a period of time.

Indeed. Marco was Principal for almost 30 years. Great guy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

Some schools have special programs for troubled kids. Lots of HS around MoCo have such programs where kids are bused in from elsewhere. Why should Whitman be excluded from housing such programs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

Umm no. Just because we’re not wealthy doesn’t mean our kids should deal with violence.
They need to fund more schools for kids expelled from their home school and stop keep moving them around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

You can always count on Whitman parents to come through with three arguments:

1) We aren't THAT rich. We're practically poor by Saudi standards.

2) All problems at Whitman are the fault of the "the group home"

3) Whitman families should be able to "buy out" of dealing with kids who have experienced trauma

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

You can always count on Whitman parents to come through with three arguments:

1) We aren't THAT rich. We're practically poor by Saudi standards.

2) All problems at Whitman are the fault of the "the group home"

3) Whitman families should be able to "buy out" of dealing with kids who have experienced trauma

To your 3) : no not just Whitman families, all families feel that way

[Anonymous]

MCPS needs specialized schools for troubled kids who are not in Juvie. Or Maryland could run these schools for the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

You can always count on Whitman parents to come through with three arguments:

1) We aren't THAT rich. We're practically poor by Saudi standards.

2) All problems at Whitman are the fault of the "the group home"

3) Whitman families should be able to "buy out" of dealing with kids who have experienced trauma

To your 3) : no not just Whitman families, all families feel that way

Apparently that's not the view of the poster who said kids should go back to their own neighborhoods where the other kids know how to deal with them...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

How about a school in their own neighborhood? With kids from a similar background who are used to dealing with this particular brand of BS

Some schools have special programs for troubled kids. Lots of HS around MoCo have such programs where kids are bused in from elsewhere. Why should Whitman be excluded from housing such programs?

I think it is fine to have the programs at Whitman, but it needs to be more than optics. Much like some kids with severe special needs need 1-1 support , these kids need it too, but in a different way. They should have staff ensuring they are attending class and not just hanging out in the bathroom, should have lots of support throughout the day both academically and mental health wise. Just sticking them in Whitman and not providing a lot of support for them, doesn’t help them at all. Many of these kids have grown up with intense traumas in their lives, they need A TON of support. The current set-up helps nobody.

[Anonymous]

The kids on the video aren't special needs they are criminals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs specialized schools for troubled kids who are not in Juvie. Or Maryland could run these schools for the state.

This is the real answer that for political reasons no one wants to deal with. It should be this or jail. But in the absence of a place like this, it should be jail over a regular high school where they will be free to do something like this again.

[Anonymous]

Those boys fight like girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those boys fight like girls.

Send them to Damascus, we will show them how to fight like men.