Fight at Whitman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A Whitman neighbor told me over the weekend that classes this year are overcrowded because there is a program to bring students in from Baltimore. Is there any truth to that? I googled and didn’t find anything and it seems odd that there would be something outside the county. She said that most of her classes this year have about 30-35 kids in them.

Are they being bussed from Baltimore every day??

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Anonymous wrote:The statement from Principal Miller is an utter joke. The kids need to be expelled. It was actually savagery to see the way they beat and stomped that kid and even barred other kids from entering the bathroom to try to help

Miller was a terrible assistant principal during his time at Churchill. He's a big supporter of restorative justice. That's what will happen to those that caused the fight. No consequences, no penalties. More fights to come.

That's really disappointing. I went to Whitman in the early 2000s and the principal at the time (can't remember his name) was great and really fair. Pretty much everyone liked him. It's very sad that these plugged in principals that cared about students have been replaced by political activists that dont care at all about the children's safety. It's actually horrifying.

[Anonymous]

If kids do not go to class and just create trouble, why do we force them to stay? I think we should allow kids to drop out at 15.

But since we don’t have that law, what do we do with kids like these? It seems like there are no options but to shuffle them to another school where they can continue the same antics.

[Anonymous]

These kids were already on admins radar and receiving a lot of support. Miller’s hands are tied with what he can communicate. The county only allows for so much to be communicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These kids were already on admins radar and receiving a lot of support. Miller’s hands are tied with what he can communicate. The county only allows for so much to be communicated.

Good to know these horrible, violent, cruel kids are "receiving a lot of support". That was my major concern when I saw them kicking a boy in the head multiple times

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

The facility where many of these troubled teens live has been there for the better part of a century, far longer than the homes most of the "well off kids" you seem to think should own the neighborhood.

So what? However long it's been there, if they cannot and will not act in a civilized manner, it's time to stop subsidizing it and allow the kids who's parents have actually paid to have property in the school district get a decent education without fear of being curb stomped in the bathroom. Have some basic empathy

But I assume you are ok with that sort of subsidized housing in other parts of the county?

If it's more aligned with the socio economic backgrounds of the students and not going to cause this kind of thievery and animosity, sure. Putting these kinds of kids among relatively sheltered offspring of nerdy government policy wonks is like feeding them to the wolves. The kids are utterly shocked by the level of savagery and totally unequipped to deal with it.

Wow. First of all, the idea that Whitman parents are mostly "nerdy government policy wonks" is hilarious. Those GS-15s are not buying homes in Potomac.

But the broader issue is that no child should be exposed to or experience this kind of violence at school. Not the pampered elite of the K Street lobbyists, not the kids whose parents crunch numbers at the GAO or EPA, and not the kids whose parents escaped repression and violence in Central America. None of them.

I want what is best for your kids, but you are happy to throw mine overboard. Nice.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I’m literally in tears watching that video. My heart goes out to the victim student and his family. The letter is ridiculous in light of the brutal assault I just saw. Those perps do not deserve to be in a gen ed school building.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

The facility where many of these troubled teens live has been there for the better part of a century, far longer than the homes most of the "well off kids" you seem to think should own the neighborhood.

So what? However long it's been there, if they cannot and will not act in a civilized manner, it's time to stop subsidizing it and allow the kids who's parents have actually paid to have property in the school district get a decent education without fear of being curb stomped in the bathroom. Have some basic empathy

But I assume you are ok with that sort of subsidized housing in other parts of the county?

If it's more aligned with the socio economic backgrounds of the students and not going to cause this kind of thievery and animosity, sure. Putting these kinds of kids among relatively sheltered offspring of nerdy government policy wonks is like feeding them to the wolves. The kids are utterly shocked by the level of savagery and totally unequipped to deal with it.

Wow. First of all, the idea that Whitman parents are mostly "nerdy government policy wonks" is hilarious. Those GS-15s are not buying homes in Potomac.

But the broader issue is that no child should be exposed to or experience this kind of violence at school. Not the pampered elite of the K Street lobbyists, not the kids whose parents crunch numbers at the GAO or EPA, and not the kids whose parents escaped repression and violence in Central America. None of them.

I want what is best for your kids, but you are happy to throw mine overboard. Nice.

Its a misconception that every student at women comes from extreme wealth. It is, after all, a public school. Yes, a very well regarded one in an expensive area, but still... there are a ton of students there whose parents have policy jobs for the government, are journalists, are just medium level employees and bought a humble split level in 2009. Sure, there are also some CEOs and very wealthy types, but there are plenty of kids who's parents are low level lawyers or whatever and arent rolling in cash. A lot of these parents are super liberal and generally pacifist, and they give the kids awful advice for dealing with bullies like these kids. It's actually a recipe for disaster.

[Anonymous]

The parents of the victim need to make some noise and force Miller to expel the students.

[Anonymous]

Why isn't this aired out in Washington Post or other news outlets? Parents need to air this dirty laundry and shine a light on the incompetence. Embarrass the administration into fixing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The statement from Principal Miller is an utter joke. The kids need to be expelled. It was actually savagery to see the way they beat and stomped that kid and even barred other kids from entering the bathroom to try to help

because it's probably nbd to them as they see fights regularly. I'm not being snarky. It's the truth. My kids go to RM. They have seen fights, but they don't tell me every time they see it. I went to an even rougher HS, and saw fights almost every day. Again, wasn't a big deal because it was so regular.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

So.. where should those kids be sent to? Anywhere other than Whitman? NIMBY at its finest.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

The facility where many of these troubled teens live has been there for the better part of a century, far longer than the homes most of the "well off kids" you seem to think should own the neighborhood.

So what? However long it's been there, if they cannot and will not act in a civilized manner, it's time to stop subsidizing it and allow the kids who's parents have actually paid to have property in the school district get a decent education without fear of being curb stomped in the bathroom. Have some basic empathy

But I assume you are ok with that sort of subsidized housing in other parts of the county?

If it's more aligned with the socio economic backgrounds of the students and not going to cause this kind of thievery and animosity, sure. Putting these kinds of kids among relatively sheltered offspring of nerdy government policy wonks is like feeding them to the wolves. The kids are utterly shocked by the level of savagery and totally unequipped to deal with it.

awww. your precious snowflakes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An email went out to parents this evening that a fight had occurred at Whitman today-- that the video was circulating - and police were involved. Does anyone know if the parties involved are ok?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/detail.aspx?formNumber=270-8&catID=3&subCatId=14

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Anonymous wrote:The statement from Principal Miller is an utter joke. The kids need to be expelled. It was actually savagery to see the way they beat and stomped that kid and even barred other kids from entering the bathroom to try to help

Miller was a terrible assistant principal during his time at Churchill. He's a big supporter of restorative justice. That's what will happen to those that caused the fight. No consequences, no penalties. More fights to come.

That's really disappointing. I went to Whitman in the early 2000s and the principal at the time (can't remember his name) was great and really fair. Pretty much everyone liked him. It's very sad that these plugged in principals that cared about students have been replaced by political activists that dont care at all about the children's safety. It's actually horrifying.

You're thinking of Jerome Marco, the Principal prior to Alan Goodman.

The person who wrote that Miler was a terrible administrator his single year at Churchill is absolutely correct. He was a complete joke who earned little respect from teachers. I know because I am a Churchill teacher.