Trump ceasing federal aid for college

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They want people to be dumb and ignorant. That is why the "coastal elites" and "teachers" and "radical professors" are always vilified by the right, even though the ones doing the vilifying are doing it at the behest of a guy who grew up in NY, went to an ivy league school and craps in a golden toilet.


Trump LOVES to talk about his Wharton degree. He is personally very impressed by Ivy League credentials. His VP went to Yale for grad school. In fact, many of his nominees went to Ivy League schools (or adjacent) for undergrad or grad school. Why would he hire so many people tainted by leftist ideology?

*Bessent (Yale)
*Burgum (Stanford)
*Hegseth (Princeton, Harvard)
*RFK Jr. (Harvard)
* Bhattacharya (Stanford)
*Oz (Harvard, UPenn)
*Phelan (Harvard)
*Sauer (Harvard, Duke)
*Stefanik (Harvard)

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2024/12/09/where-trumps-cabinet-picks-went-college



Where did his attorney general go to law school?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.


He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.


FASCISM


Bought to you by the voters of the United States of America.


And voter suppression.


The woke drove away the voters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


I do not think prices will change at all as the T100 colleges could fill up on qualified rich kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Probably going to lose doctors at this rate. Scientists too. Let’s all go back to the stone ages. MAGA!


Why? There is nothing that even suggests this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably going to lose doctors at this rate. Scientists too. Let’s all go back to the stone ages. MAGA!


Why? There is nothing that even suggests this.


Gosh, are you this...??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So let's say a university uses a trans student's chosen name and gender in the classroom. Is that enough to make it ineligble to receive federal funding? Do trans student become ineligble for government-backed loans? Does their presence in laboratoties and research spaces, even if the work being done is unrelated to gender, put those spaces at risk for losing funding?

These are not crazy questions anymore, these are real things on the horizon for one group of people. And if you think the trans community is the only group who will feel the affects of this sort of control you are kidding yourself. They are canaries in this coalmine. We either pay attention now or pay the price for our silence and inaction later.


Per the other thread it sounds like nothing will be dispersed until it is approved by the felon and his OMB chief. Vance doesn’t want any funding to higher ed. In Trump’s campaign stuff he said he wanted patriotic schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


+1

Everything government subsidies rises in price much faster than what it doesn't.


What about current students that need this aid?


Guess you're gonna have to go work and earn the money to pay the bill. What a novel idea!


Yah! What a great idea! Students already enrolled in school can just go find a job that will pay 60K a year! Because RIGHT NOW, despite your theory on how this lowers costs for colleges in future, it does NOTHING right now.

OH, I can already see your next post! “Shouldn’t have gone to a college you couldn’t afford.” Said with all the smugness of a complete a**hole.

So now you guys will be flooding the job market with people fired from the federal government and people who were unable to complete their degrees.

I sincerely hope for the worst, the absolute worst to happen to you and your family. I hope you choke on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.



Increasing cost can be linked to increase government grants and loans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.


He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.


FASCISM


Bought to you by the voters of the United States of America.


And voter suppression.


The woke drove away the voters.


It was the bomb threats and the crooked individuals who tossed aside D votes for illegitimate reasons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.



Increasing cost can be linked to increase government grants and loans.



Have you set foot on a college campus lately? Dorms are really nice. Everything is luxury compared to my dorm room in college. I think college became expensive because they’re like resorts now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably going to lose doctors at this rate. Scientists too. Let’s all go back to the stone ages. MAGA!


Why? There is nothing that even suggests this.


What can scientists study without funding, legitimate oversight, and freedom of speech????
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What's next? A purge of all the "intellectuals" and people with college degrees? Or only people with non-STEM degrees?

There is a long history of the persecution of the educated classes across time and across the world. It doesn't end well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoryersecution_of_intellectuals



It’s one of the first stages of fascism. Always.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.



Increasing cost can be linked to increase government grants and loans.



Have you set foot on a college campus lately? Dorms are really nice. Everything is luxury compared to my dorm room in college. I think college became expensive because they’re like resorts now.


Many of today's universities are just a hedge fund with a diploma printer attached.

The rot in the USA goes far and deep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's next? A purge of all the "intellectuals" and people with college degrees? Or only people with non-STEM degrees?

There is a long history of the persecution of the educated classes across time and across the world. It doesn't end well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoryersecution_of_intellectuals



It’s one of the first stages of fascism. Always.


Wrong. I get if you are degreed in a legitimate enterprise: medical, architecture, science, business, mathematics, engineering of all kinds, a trade, physics, IT, law, etc. That's an honest line of work.

But if you have a grievance degree and use it to grift (and steal by force of government), then you deserve to be persecuted. You aren't an intellectual. You're a modern day white collar criminal and deserve to be persecuted.

You're a drag on the economic well-being of this country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They want people to be dumb and ignorant. That is why the "coastal elites" and "teachers" and "radical professors" are always vilified by the right, even though the ones doing the vilifying are doing it at the behest of a guy who grew up in NY, went to an ivy league school and craps in a golden toilet.


Trump LOVES to talk about his Wharton degree. He is personally very impressed by Ivy League credentials. His VP went to Yale for grad school. In fact, many of his nominees went to Ivy League schools (or adjacent) for undergrad or grad school. Why would he hire so many people tainted by leftist ideology?

*Bessent (Yale)
*Burgum (Stanford)
*Hegseth (Princeton, Harvard)
*RFK Jr. (Harvard)
* Bhattacharya (Stanford)
*Oz (Harvard, UPenn)
*Phelan (Harvard)
*Sauer (Harvard, Duke)
*Stefanik (Harvard)

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2024/12/09/where-trumps-cabinet-picks-went-college



Same song, different tune.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/02/biden-white-house-ivy-league-479298


???

Dems don't have disdain for education.
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