Trump ceasing federal aid for college

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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


Are you sure you want that? Largely driven by red state legislation about scope of practice, nurse practitioner school requirements have gotten less and less, and the result is a substantial drop in quality and increase in NPs practicing outside of their comfort or ability zone.
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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.


He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.


No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES


I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??


Thank them! Let them know you’re paying attention and you appreciate their resistance.


So I should clog the line to say thank you and leave people with actual needs on hold while I pay myself on the back for calling and saying thank you? My vote isnt enough? Just checking.


DP. Yes, a word of support and appreciation is valuable.
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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


This is not wrong. Subsidize something and you get more consumption of the thing subsidized, basic market forces at work. If universities want more students, they have to price their services at a level where the value proposition is there. At present, federal educational subsidies allow universities to price themselves higher than they otherwise would be able to. There is an argument to be made that at least some of the revenues due to subsidies are spent on unimportant bloat in administration or other university functions which don't directly benefit students, at least in the minds of many people. There surely is a place for financial aid for some students, but the current system encourages students to choose universities they can't afford instead of making more pragmatic choices, and allows universities to charge higher prices than the free market would permit, introducing economic inefficiency.


This is not what Trump is doing this. He is doing this to screen for politics of the universities/colleges, the politics of the grant winner and enforce his political beliefs. They are looking to replace presidents and professors just like what happened at Harvard and Penn.

This is for tax cuts and republicans politic control of colleges. It has nothing to do with reducing the cost of attending.
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Probably going to lose doctors at this rate. Scientists too. Let’s all go back to the stone ages. MAGA!
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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


Exactly HOW are they trying to find change? Please be specific with links to examples of this change in action.

Dp- voting for Trump was a vote for “common sense” for them. It was a vote for “normal”
Yes JD Vance and all the project 2025 people are legitimately a bunch of off-putting weirdos, but that’s only if you are paying attention. And most people aren’t paying attention. They are seeing trans and non binary characters written into every show and they are blaming the democrats for it. They just got ok with homos and they feel the left couldn’t leave them be. They felt attacked.
They are smart enough to see that sh—- isn’t working now. The price of college has ballooned, there aren’t starter homes anymore, the good paying jobs that their stem degrees were supposed to guarantee are being filled by foreigners.
They are smart enough to see the system doesn’t work.
But they are too stupid to understand Trump sure as sh—- can’t fix it, and will absolutely make it worse.
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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


Exactly HOW are they trying to find change? Please be specific with links to examples of this change in action.

Dp- voting for Trump was a vote for “common sense” for them. It was a vote for “normal”
Yes JD Vance and all the project 2025 people are legitimately a bunch of off-putting weirdos, but that’s only if you are paying attention. And most people aren’t paying attention. They are seeing trans and non binary characters written into every show and they are blaming the democrats for it. They just got ok with homos and they feel the left couldn’t leave them be. They felt attacked.
They are smart enough to see that sh—- isn’t working now. The price of college has ballooned, there aren’t starter homes anymore, the good paying jobs that their stem degrees were supposed to guarantee are being filled by foreigners.
They are smart enough to see the system doesn’t work.
But they are too stupid to understand Trump sure as sh—- can’t fix it, and will absolutely make it worse.


The bolded exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been in college in a bit, but was the next disbursement coming up?

I have seen 3 separate social media vids from those in college wondering what it means for their next disbursement. One young lady is 2 months from finishing her Masters but won't be able to without her grant that she said was days away.

If so, that's super fked up. And I read this applies to section 8 housing as well. Rent is about to be due in 4 days. That's not enough time for people to hustle to make up the difference so they don't get evicted.


For some, yes.

I already know of students who had to leave college because they won't get the loan money. One had already been in school for two weeks...

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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


+1 Agree

The problem is that the GOP has captured the white working class through fearmongering and racism. So Democrats get their support from a fractured coalition held together with money from rich liberals who love money more than they love their country.
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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.


It will raise costs because the full weight will fall on those who pay, and so there will be fewer of those.
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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


You might be a MAGA apologist. Trump's people mostly attended elite schools, so I would not say it's liberal. Harvard, especially, has made many MAGAs.

Random change is not needed. If lawmakers want school to be cheaper, they can do that without forcing students to have to leave school right now by not giving them the loans they were promised.



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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


Exactly HOW are they trying to find change? Please be specific with links to examples of this change in action.


The change I see is that they don't want people to attend college. This message is communicated via Joe Rogan, Sean Hannity, and others. Hannity, meanwhile, sends his own kids to elite colleges.

They want to increase the uneducated because that's who will vote for them and who they can control most easily.

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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.


It will raise costs because the full weight will fall on those who pay, and so there will be fewer of those.[/quote?

And what about my students at NOVA who rely on their financial aid for a cost efficient education and supplies? Just eff them, huh, because some school somewhere has a rock climbing wall?

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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.


It will raise costs because the full weight will fall on those who pay, and so there will be fewer of those.[/quote?




And what about my students at NOVA who rely on their financial aid for a cost efficient education and supplies? Just eff them, huh, because some school somewhere has a rock climbing wall?
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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.


Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.


Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.


Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.


Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.



DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.


I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.


Exactly HOW are they trying to find change? Please be specific with links to examples of this change in action.


The change I see is that they don't want people to attend college. This message is communicated via Joe Rogan, Sean Hannity, and others. Hannity, meanwhile, sends his own kids to elite colleges.

They want to increase the uneducated because that's who will vote for them and who they can control most easily.


And they can pay the uneducated MAGAs less while their elite educated kids get ahead.
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So let's say a university uses a trans student's chosen name and gender in the classroom. Is that enough to make it ineligble to receive federal funding? Do trans student become ineligble for government-backed loans? Does their presence in laboratoties and research spaces, even if the work being done is unrelated to gender, put those spaces at risk for losing funding?

These are not crazy questions anymore, these are real things on the horizon for one group of people. And if you think the trans community is the only group who will feel the affects of this sort of control you are kidding yourself. They are canaries in this coalmine. We either pay attention now or pay the price for our silence and inaction later.
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