Trump ceasing federal aid for college

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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Steel the spine, remind them that you care and that you care a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

Um, he said he was not running on Project 2025. So how is this what the country voted for?

Well he did say Haitians were eating cats and dogs, so I would say that was your first clue that he lies out his @ss. If you don’t know he’s a liar, you’re not paying attention. Vance admitted he lied to get eyeballs on issues.

I'm the PP and in agreement with you. OTOH, Trump said on more than one occasion said he wasn't supporting Project 2025, so many low-info voters could argue that this is not what they were voting for.

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Anonymous wrote:So let's say a university uses a trans student's chosen name and gender in the classroom. Is that enough to make it ineligble to receive federal funding? Do trans student become ineligble for government-backed loans? Does their presence in laboratoties and research spaces, even if the work being done is unrelated to gender, put those spaces at risk for losing funding?

These are not crazy questions anymore, these are real things on the horizon for one group of people. And if you think the trans community is the only group who will feel the affects of this sort of control you are kidding yourself. They are canaries in this coalmine. We either pay attention now or pay the price for our silence and inaction later.

I agree with you. I'm very worried for the trans people in my community. I'm just wondering how to have an impact beyond feeling depressed about it all. Even many Democrat politicians haven't wanted to be vocal about trans rights. I think the people who even privately support trans people are a small minority and those willing to protest publicly (including me) are an even smaller one.

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Anonymous wrote:What's next? A purge of all the "intellectuals" and people with college degrees? Or only people with non-STEM degrees?

There is a long history of the persecution of the educated classes across time and across the world. It doesn't end well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoryersecution_of_intellectuals

It’s one of the first stages of fascism. Always.

Wrong. I get if you are degreed in a legitimate enterprise: medical, architecture, science, business, mathematics, engineering of all kinds, a trade, physics, IT, law, etc. That's an honest line of work.

But if you have a grievance degree and use it to grift (and steal by force of government), then you deserve to be persecuted. You aren't an intellectual. You're a modern day white collar criminal and deserve to be persecuted.

You're a drag on the economic well-being of this country.

It is clear that you support this decision and so I have a real question for you. My daughter is in a PhD program studying early signs of Parkinson’s. Her lab receives significant funding through a federal grant. She consistently receives excellent feedback on her work and is highly regarded by her team for her contributions. And she’s trans, out and open about it. So should her presence in that laboratory stand in the way of them receiving funding from the government for their research? Should they be faced with the question of keeping her on the team or keeping their funding?

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Anonymous wrote:Good, tied of so many kids getting into college and can't afford it. Acceptance rates are so low for non urm who end up needing all this aide

tell me you're an idiot without...no, you told me you're an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Thank them! Let them know you’re paying attention and you appreciate their resistance.

So I should clog the line to say thank you and leave people with actual needs on hold while I pay myself on the back for calling and saying thank you? My vote isnt enough? Just checking.

You really have no idea how Congressional offices work. If you don't want to "clog the line," then whip off an email. Trust me, this kind of stuff makes a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.

Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.

Deflation doesn't work like that. Sorry not sorry.

Please explain how it works then.


You’re right about housing and other large purchases. Why buy today when you can buy tomorrow? That type of deflation will wreck an economy by disincentivizing spending.

For many other consumer goods, deflation doesn’t have nearly the effect. As a basic example, TVs have decreased in price since they were invented. Consumers have benefitted, and still buy TVs. People buy eggs as they get less expensive.

If college costs decreased every year, I’ll still send my kids to college. Even if the price is less expensive the following year.

Where are the cost reductions? Will the professor salaries get cut, or services such as counseling, tutoring, student mental support etc get eliminated. It is my understanding that universities are finding it difficult to get students interested in the teaching profession, so they need to compete for people willing to instruct your dear Larla. How about housing, I guess they can go back to the shit hole dorm rooms that existed when I attended FSU. We didn’t have air condition in Tallahassee florid in some of the dorms. Yikes, just that memory is revolting. Will the cost of boarding decrease despite food prices increasing throughout the country. Bottom line is that the cost will not decrease, but more schools will close and/or consolidate; thus making the demand for those who can pay more in demand.

Every financial entity has a possible cost reduction.

Most schools don’t need football, especially the schools where it doesn’t make money.

Multiple rec centers? Nope.

Climbing walls? Nope.

Community college is inexpensive. Just build some dorms around them and charge the associated cost and you’ll have your model.

I appreciate your post. It wasn’t low effort. But my opinion is colleges aren’t operating a bare bones, minimum staffing model. There is bloat, and it’s costing consumers money.

DP.

He is cutting audio to community colleges as well.

Positive change is possible, and I agree that Democrats ( leadership) were not interested in actually changing anything. But Trump is not the answer. I hope that when his term is over, his voters can recognize that and take another shot with someone else.

Dp- the same idiots that voted for this crap are the same idiots that voted us into the Iraq war. They literally never learn. They will vote for the next terrible “conservative” next time. They never understand what the lesson is.

I get your point. But to their credit, they are looking for change. They may be looking in all the wrong places, but they are looking. What have Democrats done to reduce the cost of higher education? They keep giving more loans and the prices keep going up.

Higher education is largely liberal yet we went from 2 year law school programs to 3 year programs. We went from pharmacy training being 6 years away from high school to being 8. Other countries manage to train capable professionals in a shorter period. Yet we increased the years of training, there by increasing cost of attendance and delaying earning years for our professionals. All these fields have governing boards that are largely liberal. Don't they see the disaster that our cost of education is? Why haven't they shortened these programs? Why haven't they created work and train programs to reduce costs for students?

I hate that these people voted for Trump, but at least they're are trying to find change. Change is needed.

+1 Agree

The problem is that the GOP has captured the white working class through fearmongering and racism. So Democrats get their support from a fractured coalition held together with money from rich liberals who love money more than they love their country.

Are you kidding me? Rich conservatives want to hoard all the money for themselves. The GOP has not passed a SINGLE piece of legislation in ONE HUNDRED years that has done ANYTHING for the BENEFIT of common people in this country. NOT ONE!

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Anonymous wrote:Probably going to lose doctors at this rate. Scientists too. Let’s all go back to the stone ages. MAGA!

Why? There is nothing that even suggests this.

Gosh, are you this...??

yes, that poster is. they probably don't listen to or read a media outlet covering how med students are avoiding ID, LA, TX, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Thank them! Let them know you’re paying attention and you appreciate their resistance.

So I should clog the line to say thank you and leave people with actual needs on hold while I pay myself on the back for calling and saying thank you? My vote isnt enough? Just checking.

You really have no idea how Congressional offices work. If you don't want to "clog the line," then whip off an email. Trust me, this kind of stuff makes a difference.

I’m not being snarky, I promise. But what are they really doing to do with my email or phone call? I live in a “wicked” (heh) blue state. Do they keep track of positive interactions and roll them up into a dashboard? Would metrics even matter with this administration? I mean, this snowball is turning into an avalanche and no one seems to be doing anything to stop it. I feel helpless.

Anyway, sorry for my brain dump and it’s not directed at you. Just frustrated and feel totally powerless.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Thank them! Let them know you’re paying attention and you appreciate their resistance.

So I should clog the line to say thank you and leave people with actual needs on hold while I pay myself on the back for calling and saying thank you? My vote isnt enough? Just checking.

You're insufferable.

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Anonymous wrote:That will probably lower college costs. Amazing how the cost of college has skyrocketed once the government got in on the loan business.

I’d consider this a win for future students who won’t be saddled with student loan debt.

They won’t have the means to pay for college either way. It only benefits the UMC who have additional disposable income to plow into 529 plans. It does not benefit students who require grants and loans because they are without family or parental financial support.

Without all those students using grants and loans, colleges will have to lower prices to keep that money flowing in.

The Ivies may continue to only be for the rich, but I could see state schools cut tuition to have higher enrollment.

VA Tech isn’t just going to only have 10,000 students attend who can afford full pay. Better to lower tuition to ensure full enrollment and a higher bottom line.

+1

Everything government subsidies rises in price much faster than what it doesn't.

Really?.corn and milk would be cheaper without subsidies?

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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Thank them! Let them know you’re paying attention and you appreciate their resistance.

So I should clog the line to say thank you and leave people with actual needs on hold while I pay myself on the back for calling and saying thank you? My vote isnt enough? Just checking.

You really have no idea how Congressional offices work. If you don't want to "clog the line," then whip off an email. Trust me, this kind of stuff makes a difference.

I’m not being snarky, I promise. But what are they really doing to do with my email or phone call? I live in a “wicked” (heh) blue state. Do they keep track of positive interactions and roll them up into a dashboard? Would metrics even matter with this administration? I mean, this snowball is turning into an avalanche and no one seems to be doing anything to stop it. I feel helpless.

Anyway, sorry for my brain dump and it’s not directed at you. Just frustrated and feel totally powerless.

Metrics don't matter for the admin. You're demanding your "wicked" blue state reps/senators to object to these unconstitutional actions. And offices to keep of these interactions. Who gives an eff if they are rolled up into a dashboard. Stop posting here, call your reps/senators now, heck, call the governor, and remind them that you care a lot about this stuff and that you expect them to do everything in their power to resist!

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Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Thank them! Let them know you’re paying attention and you appreciate their resistance.

So I should clog the line to say thank you and leave people with actual needs on hold while I pay myself on the back for calling and saying thank you? My vote isnt enough? Just checking.

You're insufferable.

Right? Listen to Nike and "just do it!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He can’t do this. This is like his 15th impeachable act in a week.

He can do whatever he wants. That is what the country voted for. He could literally take you out if you don't like it and that would be that.

No, he cannot. This is America. And everyone needs to stop accepting that he’ll
always break the law and just carry on with their lives. Impeach him again and again and keep suing him in court.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES

I live in a blue state and my representatives vote against him. WHAT DOES CALLING MY REPS DO??

Steel the spine, remind them that you care and that you care a lot.

And thank them. Human nature 101 is that we respond most strongly to positive re-enforcement.

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Probably a Project 2025 thing. Education is not good for conservatives. People start learning things, getting ideas on how to do things better, and all kinds of dangerous things can happen, like progress. Conservatism is the opposite of progress.