Yield Protection?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, some colleges might yield protect. So what?

High stats students apply to 10+ colleges amongst the T25 to weigh their options.

Fair game, no?

Yes, that's what you have to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, some colleges might yield protect. So what?

High stats students apply to 10+ colleges amongst the T25 to weigh their options.

Fair game, no?

More like a vicious cycle.

Uncertain admissions means students apply to more schools, driving down yield, encouraging schools to step up their yield protection efforts, making admissions more uncertain.

Rinse and repeat.

Not my issue. Im worried about my kid not "the system". Let someone else deal with that. I don't care about "uncertain admissions"....wtf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

+1

Georgetown EA is more selective than either Brown or Dartmouth ED. Just saying…

[Anonymous]

My kid got into Berkeley and UCLA with Regents scholarships, as well as three schools out of HYPSM. However, he was only admitted to UCI as a regular admit, even not into the honors program, he was a valedictorian and he was rejected by USC. Meanwhile, students ranked much lower, in the 20-30% percentile range, were admitted into UCI’s honors program.

A friend’s kid one year later who also got Regents at Berkeley and UCLA and was admitted to two HYPSM schools, received a Spring Admit option from USC.( no NMSF scholarship at all ). both SAT score were 1600 even.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tulane
Spelman
Wake

Good to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

DP. The Dartmouth acceptance rate is identical to Pomonas. But also, the differences between those schools makes one wonder how well these colleges are accessing applications.

Dartmouth yield rate is 70%. Pomona is 50%. Make of that what you will.

Not much at all? Those are both decent to excellent yield rates. It’s the highest yield rate amongst LACs as STEM has become the rave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

DP. The Dartmouth acceptance rate is identical to Pomonas. But also, the differences between those schools makes one wonder how well these colleges are accessing applications.

Dartmouth yield rate is 70%. Pomona is 50%. Make of that what you will.

Not much at all? Those are both decent to excellent yield rates. It’s the highest yield rate amongst LACs as STEM has become the rave.

+1, I can’t think of a college without engineering that has a higher yield rate without some manipulation (uchicago).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid got into Berkeley and UCLA with Regents scholarships, as well as three schools out of HYPSM. However, he was only admitted to UCI as a regular admit, even not into the honors program, he was a valedictorian and he was rejected by USC. Meanwhile, students ranked much lower, in the 20-30% percentile range, were admitted into UCI’s honors program and USC.

A friend’s kid one year later who also got Regents at Berkeley and UCLA and was admitted to two HYPSM schools, received a Spring Admit option from USC.( no NMSF scholarship at all ). both SAT score were 1600 even.

[Anonymous]

Bates. Posted this in another thread, DC accepted at Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Haverford, and Vassar, and WL at Bates. Students with lower stats from the same HS were accepted, others with similar stats were also WL'd.

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Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

DP. The Dartmouth acceptance rate is identical to Pomonas. But also, the differences between those schools makes one wonder how well these colleges are accessing applications.

Dartmouth yield rate is 70%. Pomona is 50%. Make of that what you will.

Not much at all? Those are both decent to excellent yield rates. It’s the highest yield rate amongst LACs as STEM has become the rave.

Dartmouth has a 21% ED admit rate; Pomona and Brown have a 13% ED admit rate. If Dartmouth reduces its ED acceptance rate to 13%, its yield will obviously go down.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/early-vs-regular-decision-admission-rates/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid got into Berkeley and UCLA with Regents scholarships, as well as three schools out of HYPSM. However, he was only admitted to UCI as a regular admit, even not into the honors program, he was a valedictorian and he was rejected by USC. Meanwhile, students ranked much lower, in the 20-30% percentile range, were admitted into UCI’s honors program.

A friend’s kid one year later who also got Regents at Berkeley and UCLA and was admitted to two HYPSM schools, received a Spring Admit option from USC.( no NMSF scholarship at all ). both SAT score were 1600 even.



Feel like USC “yield protects” when it comes to Ca applicants, esp those who aren’t legacy & or Newport Beach/Manhattan Beach wealthy. Figure most middle-class & < Ca kids who have a choice would choose Cal or UCLA over USC in great part due to the delta in tuition costs. My limited sample size, seems to me that internationals & out of state kids enrolled at USC are higher stats & greater ec’s then Ca kids who are enrolled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

+1

Georgetown EA is more selective than either Brown or Dartmouth ED. Just saying…

Georgetown holds legacy weight much, much greater than B or D. I don't know a single legacy kid that did not get in EA at GU going back years at our HS, but I know so many legacy kids that got rejected outright ED at Brown and Dartmouth. GU also counts grad school and law school into their legacy benefits, local faculty get weight too. It is difficult in the sense that connections matter a lot in their EA round.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

DP. The Dartmouth acceptance rate is identical to Pomonas. But also, the differences between those schools makes one wonder how well these colleges are accessing applications.

Dartmouth yield rate is 70%. Pomona is 50%. Make of that what you will.

Not much at all? Those are both decent to excellent yield rates. It’s the highest yield rate amongst LACs as STEM has become the rave.

Dartmouth has a 21% ED admit rate; Pomona and Brown have a 13% ED admit rate. If Dartmouth reduces its ED acceptance rate to 13%, its yield will obviously go down.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/early-vs-regular-decision-admission-rates/

And this is why raw yield rate comparisons with no context are useless. Uchicago isn’t some uber attractive god school comparable only to Harvard- it just forces everyone to commit to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

+1

Georgetown EA is more selective than either Brown or Dartmouth ED. Just saying…

Georgetown holds legacy weight much, much greater than B or D. I don't know a single legacy kid that did not get in EA at GU going back years at our HS, but I know so many legacy kids that got rejected outright ED at Brown and Dartmouth. GU also counts grad school and law school into their legacy benefits, local faculty get weight too. It is difficult in the sense that connections matter a lot in their EA round.

There is also the fact that NOBODY gets rejected EA at Georgetown. Deferred or accepted. They are known to split equally between EA round and RD round. It's not that it's harder. It's the way they operate. Georgetown loudly proclaims applying early confers no advantage. They have always stood by that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected.

My kid got into Pomona, Hopkins, Swarthmore, Dartmouth, Georgetown and Brown.

WL at Villanova and Tufts.

My kid got into Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomono and WL and weightlisted at Dartmouth. Rejected from Brown.

So, it's very hard to know--depends on so many factors.

Sorry, as a Tufts grad, I'll tell you that Tufts, Georgetown, and Pomona are less selective than either Dartmouth or Brown. That's not yield protection. Evidence of yield protection would be if kid were accepted at Dartmouth and Brown and waitlisted at Tufts.

+1

Georgetown EA is more selective than either Brown or Dartmouth ED. Just saying…

Georgetown holds legacy weight much, much greater than B or D. I don't know a single legacy kid that did not get in EA at GU going back years at our HS, but I know so many legacy kids that got rejected outright ED at Brown and Dartmouth. GU also counts grad school and law school into their legacy benefits, local faculty get weight too. It is difficult in the sense that connections matter a lot in their EA round.

naviance and scoir will show that the early admits at GU often have much lower stats than the RD round at a HS because of this, legacy is a guarantee there.